Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

The Attorney General is 100% correct. Immigrants come to the UK and bring with them their practice's. Some countries such as Nigeria run completely on corruption. I have a friend who worked in Lagos and it was necessary to bribe your way day to day. You bribe the police to get your documents back when they are checked. You bribe your way to the electricity put on etc. Pakistan is the same. When you have a concentration of one ethnicity in an area, corruption within the area begins. If it is not stopped you gradually adopt these practice's into the wider population. We have already adopted bad influences and we don't want any more.

cynic
I was down your way yesterday in Wokingham at Mighty Micro's funeral. I spoke to Bullshare (Mike Boydell) about the posters on this BB. He has an interesting take on the whole thing. If I ever meet you, I will tell more.

Where is gf today?

Cameron to clampdown on migrants’ rights to benefits

The Prime Minister is to unveil a series of measures to limit migrants’ rights to benefits in response to growing public pressure for change

David Cameron is to impose tougher constraints on migrants’ access to benefits to discourage a flood of newcomers when Britain’s borders are opened to Bulgaria and Romania next year.

The Prime Minister is attempting to respond to growing public pressure to limit immigration from the European Union, which came top of a wishlist of issues people want to see renegotiated with Brussels in a recent YouGov survey.

Tightening UK border controls claimed 30 per cent more votes then the next two highest ranking priorities people want to see discussed with Europe, which were human rights reform and expanding non-EU trade.

Mr Cameron has not yet given details of the specific powers he plans to try and wrestle back from Brussels before the promised 2017 referendum on Britain’s membership of the EU.

He has promised to clampdown on “welfare tourism” and is due to unveil more details proposals to limit EU migrants rights to benefits next week, senior government figures have claimed.

Cameroon cannot change any of the above...he's just blowing smoke up our arses.

Britain faces opposition from the European Commission over plans to cut down on migrants’ access to child benefit, child tax credit and elements of job-seekers allowance for their first year in the country.

Migrants will have to prove they are actively looking for employment and have a realistic prospect of getting work under planned restrictions to jobseeker’s allowance.

There are growing concerns in Government about the dropping of border controls for Bulgarians and Romanians on January 1, which has already sparked a public outcry about the potential influx of Roma gypsies

Ministers insist the number of new arrivals will not compare with the 600,000 Eastern Europeans who flooded into Britain within two years after 2004.

But MigrationWatch UK has estimated that about 50,000 Romanians and Bulgarians a year will come to Britain.

Many Conservatives believe the change, which will lift all curbs on Romanians and Bulgarians entering the UK job market, will push more voters into supporting the UK Independence Party.

Mr Cameron is expected to push for a slackening of the freedom of trade directive to allow more time limit extensions and the introduction of new contributions eligibility tests on benefits.

But many Britons want to see the UK quit the directive entirely.

More than half the respondents of the YouGov poll carried out for The Times said they would give up their rights to live and work in other EU states in exchange for the closing of Britain’s borders.

Voters hostilities are largely focused on the less skilled migrants who are seeking low paid jobs, the survey revealed, with people’s taking a less tough stance on highly skilled workers, students and asylum seekers.

People’s concerns about immigration centre around increased pressure on public services while many others cite the shortage of housing and jobs as their main worry.

Next week’s immigration figures will reveal where the Government has overseen a reversal in the upward trend.

Too little, too late....Big Dave is toast come the next election.


Many Conservatives believe the change, which will lift all curbs on Romanians and Bulgarians entering the UK job market, will push more voters into supporting the UK Independence Party.

Mr Cameron is expected to push for a slackening of the freedom of trade directive to allow more time limit extensions and the introduction of new contributions eligibility tests on benefits.

There will be a Conservative government next time with a majority with David Cameron as PM.

I'll have some of whatever you are drinking Haystack.


A question, if I may.


Why has the gov waited until 5 weeks afore the shit starts to hit the fan to (talk) about doing something with the problem?

They started to do things about immigration after the election. Conservative supporters have the same type of gripe as Lib supporters. They say, "why aren't you implementing Conservative policies?" In both cases the answer is the same. The parties are in a coalition and neither party can choose their own policies. Each policy has to be the result of a deal between the two parties every time.

has gf deserted us? Is he to ashamed of the Labour party to post on here.

ok, so whats changed?


Are the dim/libs going to come onboard with the nu policy, or is it more of the same??

I don't know. He has to convince the Libs. It shouldn't be too difficult as the policy is VERY popular with the public. The Libs won't want to be seen to block such a policy.

ok, fair enough.

Cant see it happening tho.

I agree that he will find it difficult.

He for sure will, seeing as he has left it so late.

Which to me means he was never serious in the first place, it's all smoke and mirrors.

It is a response to the public's worries about the next wave of immigration.

Manuel's approach to a problem is similar to Cameron's.

Shoot the messenger and ignore the warning.

Must have had the same tutors.

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Gorgeous,

If you see me as Red, I suggest you question your own position and leanings.

Perhaps, you could also, have a look at political opinion in some of the quality papers, rather than the rags I guess you read.

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Hays.

Your approach appears to be, "if we say it, it is right,", God, Eton and I divined it that way and so be it".

And if we keep repeating the mantras from party HQ, we will be OK. even if the boat is sinking.

Laughable.

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MX.

I congratulate the UKIP and Farage doing a good hatchet job and exposing the racist and hypocritic element in the CON party and some of the voters, but I don't think the majority will vote for the tripe they stand on at a UK election in sufficient numbers to
have any government's policy.

Cameron and his cronies know it would be long term economic suicide to get out of the EU.

England would be a bigger non-entity than it is at the moment.

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But Cameron does seem to be ducking a debate with Fauxpage and ALEX SALMOND in the EU and UK election and will be seen as a political coward, which will add to his rejection by the voters.

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The corruption of government is the nod, the wink and clique, like with Murdoch, Andy and Rebecca which will be emphasised in the run up to the election.
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It is interesting to watch the squirming which is going on.


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PS.

Georgie Boy,

I agree with the majority of U-Turns Cameron has done.

9-)

I think hays as been on the hard stuff all day.

Hes been asking where have I been all day. Im suprised that he hasnt noticed in the past I dont do much posting at weekends, anyway just for you hays, Ive been sea fishing off Whitby and caught a few tripe.

Which is better then the tripe youve been spouting today.