goldfinger
- 09 Jun 2005 12:25
Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).
Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.
cheers GF.
Fred1new
- 25 Nov 2013 13:46
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DB4
This is more interesting from one of the right wing rags.
By Peter Dominiczak
Former Conservative Party donors have given almost £750,000 to the UK Independence Party, figures have disclosed.
Seventeen Tory supporters who between them gave over £5 million in donations now appear to have switched their allegiance to Nigel Farage’s Ukip, giving almost £750,000 to the Eurosceptic party.
The revelation came as Paul Sykes, a self-made tycoon, promised to do “whatever it takes” financially to help Ukip in May’s European elections.
Mr Sykes supported the Tories under Margaret Thatcher and Michael Howard, but has backed Ukip in the past, giving the party £1.5 million in 2004. His latest investment in the party is expected to run into millions and will come as a significant blow to the Tories, who are fighting to stop grassroots supporters defecting to Ukip over their position on the European Union and policies such as legalising gay marriage.
The most recent donation figures available from the Electoral Commission show that two more donors who had between them donated nearly £60,000 to the Tory party since the last election have started giving money to Ukip.
Fred1new
- 25 Nov 2013 13:58
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DB,
For your perusal.
Political financing stinks, but what has the coalition done,
Allowed MPs who attempted or have defrauded the country over their expenses to sit in parliament.
One apparently claiming for keeping his horses warm.
"David Cameron has been urged to investigate why the Tory Party took over £420,000 from the telecoms group Lycamobile, which has close links to Sri Lanka's controversial President Mahinda Rajapaksa.
Labour MP Tom Blenkinsop told the Huffington Post UK: "The Prime Minister knows his party has received over £420k from a company closely associated with the Sri Lankan regime. He was obviously so concerned that his own MPs were recently prevented from visiting there.
The MP, who has written directly to the Prime Minister, added: "So in the interests of transparency I want to know if the Prime Minister is going to investigate why his party has received over £420k from this company so closely associated with the Sri Lankan government."
I do hope Wavey Dave is investigating the case.
cynic
- 25 Nov 2013 14:13
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Stan - you got in one, though you didn't mean to ...... what's the point in revamping a house in Blaenau if the nearest jobs are in l'pool? ...... houses, jobs, people all go hand in hand
Fred1new
- 25 Nov 2013 14:33
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Manuel,
Your are an idiot.
Move the pool nearer the house.
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Have a look at the 30s around the country with the introduction of small trading estates in or on the borders of "high unemployment". They were very successful of the local or overall economies and the unemployed.
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The strength of a community and society was built on the strength of the unit family.
One of the problems of society at the moment may be the dispersal of those in the family units. Not sure that this is a progressive or regressive development.
But, I think something has to alter the present pattern of wealth distribution to the S.E. and London and disperse it more generally.
Perhaps, increasing trade to the more peripheral towns rather than trading to London.
UMMH
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Edited, added a "un"
Haystack
- 25 Nov 2013 14:34
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We seem to be missing gf again. Has he been banned?
cynic
- 25 Nov 2013 14:56
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of course i'm an idiot - I live in the real world
go to Aberdeen and you'll find that house prices are no bargain (relatively damn expensive in real-world-speak)
why would that be?
golly-gosh, surely not because that is where the business is and so people need to live there?
Stan
- 25 Nov 2013 15:04
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Don't talk wet Alf, Aberdeen is an exception and you know it as it's Oil based.
cynic
- 25 Nov 2013 15:11
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you don't say!
to repeat .... houses are required and will be built where there are jobs to which people migrate - simples!
in case you haven't woken up to it (clearly not!) that has always been the case, certainly as far back as the industrial revolution and arguably much earlier
you can't just "wish" that businesses/jobs will "relocate" ..... like I said, I live in the real world though patently fred does not and perhaps you are migrating to his world too (for a job?)
Haystack
- 25 Nov 2013 15:29
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cynic is completely right. Farming communities lived at or close to the poverty line. They had huge families of which only a few survived. As the industrial revolution came along life expectancy was increasing. In particular infant mortality was improving fast. The result was that rural populations migrated to the cities as their local environment could not support all the children in families. As prosperity in the towns and cities improved, people went to the cities to work in service. In every area of London and similar cities every large house had servants. There were hundreds of thousands in service. A butcher might have a family of say 6 and a couple of servants. The two world wars killed off service. Those in service stayed in the cities and needed their own housing. Since that period housing has always been short.
The situation has been made much worse by the influx of immigrants who typically have large families again. There is a major shortage of housing because we have a population that is too big. It creates a strain on services such as schooling,GPs, hospitals.
If you want a job go to a major city.
Haystack
- 25 Nov 2013 15:30
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cynic
What is the local opinion where you are regarding the Iran nuclear deal?
Stan
- 25 Nov 2013 15:34
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What and camp in hide park? You are also talking nonsense H/S... this 2013 not 1813.
aldwickk
- 25 Nov 2013 15:35
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Haystack
- 25 Nov 2013 15:37
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If you want a job then come to London and stay in a hostel temporarily for a few days while you look for a job.
Stan
- 25 Nov 2013 15:41
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Why don't you, as you obviously need to get out more.
Haystack
- 25 Nov 2013 15:44
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I live in London. Don't you know anyone who could put you up in a city, that's if you are looking for a job. I am semi retired.
Haystack
- 25 Nov 2013 15:45
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Is gf still in the pub?
Stan
- 25 Nov 2013 15:49
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Been there done it, Filthy place full of pollution.
cynic
- 25 Nov 2013 15:58
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where's that stan?
the pub?
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opinion over here re the iran deal is that it will be very good for business.
no one gives a fig for the predictable response from Israel, though that may be more for domestic consumption that anything else
Stan
- 25 Nov 2013 16:04
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North, Central and West, The Pub's in Nunhead, South.
cynic
- 25 Nov 2013 16:09
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nunhead?
does that date back to the time of the black death (1348-52) and the migration of the remains of the population
wasn't that even earlier than the industrial revolution? :-)
time to adjourn for some very good steak and red wine
glad it's not my wallet paying :-)