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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Haystack - 26 Nov 2013 13:20 - 33334 of 81564

Zero-hours workers are more likely to be happy with their work-life balance than other employees, new research has found.

The study from the Chartered Institute for Personnel Development comes amid mounting controversy over the widespread use of these deals, which offer employees no fixed hours of work or benefits from one week to the next.

Just over half of the 456 zero hours workers questioned by CIPD said they did not want more hours, with 38% saying they would. Four out of five said they were never penalised if they were unavailable for work. Workers on zero-hours contracts said they were just as happy as the average worker, and are happier with their work-life balance.

CIPD chief executive Peter Cheese said: "The use of zero-hours contracts in the UK economy has been underestimated, oversimplified and in some cases, unfairly demonised. Our research shows that the majority of people employed on these contracts are satisfied with their jobs.

Haystack - 26 Nov 2013 13:22 - 33335 of 81564

Desmond's views should be ignored on all topics except discussions on how gullible you have to be to believe in extra terrestrial beings who are watching over us.

MaxK - 26 Nov 2013 13:42 - 33336 of 81564

well, if the chartered institute of backstabbers say this, it must be true!


"CIPD chief executive Peter Cheese said: "The use of zero-hours contracts in the UK economy has been underestimated, oversimplified and in some cases, unfairly demonised. Our research shows that the majority of people employed on these contracts are satisfied with their jobs."

Haystack - 26 Nov 2013 13:45 - 33337 of 81564

All the polls taken on the subject indicate the same view. People like zero hour contracts due to the flexibility.

MaxK - 26 Nov 2013 13:49 - 33338 of 81564

Forget about actually earning a living wage, flexibility is everything!

2517GEORGE - 26 Nov 2013 13:55 - 33339 of 81564

Gordon Brown likes it, he's put in nearly 1 hour since his defeat, but hey ho the taxpayer is paying him very well thank you.
2517

Haystack - 26 Nov 2013 14:10 - 33340 of 81564

At least he does less damage that way.

2517GEORGE - 26 Nov 2013 14:11 - 33341 of 81564

Can't argue with that, just a pity we still pay him.
2517

Stan - 26 Nov 2013 15:04 - 33342 of 81564

The same old "Conners"... never let "Propaganda" get in the way of the "Truth".

goldfinger - 26 Nov 2013 15:27 - 33343 of 81564

Stop talking sh-te about Zero hours Hays.

Youve obviosly been looking at a tory wrag.

Fact is these people on them are so desperate to get out of being unemployed they would accept anything.

What I do though recognise is Regional differences.

cynic - 26 Nov 2013 15:31 - 33344 of 81564

sticky - I have yet to understand exactly why some but certainly not all think zero-hour contracts are so terrible ..... as far as I can see, it is very little different from being a self-employed courier driver or even a plumber etc ..... in fact, being self-employed may well give even less "protection" when it comes to sickness, holidays, state benefits etc, but more than happy to be told (proved!) i'm wrong

cynic - 26 Nov 2013 15:31 - 33345 of 81564

.

goldfinger - 26 Nov 2013 15:37 - 33346 of 81564

Well those on Zero hours Cyners have less rights than self employed. They get nothing but the hours they work.

My sister in London itself is so fed up with agencys that just offer them.

She has to work xmas day at normal rates and does not get any time off in lieu etc etc.

Its basicaly slavery.

MaxK - 26 Nov 2013 15:47 - 33347 of 81564

And self employed people tend to charge a lot more than £7 quid an hour.

Stan - 26 Nov 2013 15:48 - 33348 of 81564

Rule No1 as an employee, Don't deal with agents.

Rule No2.......

Haystack - 26 Nov 2013 15:49 - 33349 of 81564

cynic
Israel has just cancelled the settlement freeze because of the US / Iran deal. It is intended as a slap in the face for Obama.

Stan - 26 Nov 2013 15:50 - 33350 of 81564

That's right H/S, change the subject once you've lost the point.

cynic - 26 Nov 2013 15:54 - 33351 of 81564

so why is that different from self-employed?
and are you absolutely sure your correct about that anyway? ...... surely if you are contracted to a company on whatever terms, the company (and you) is bound by the social tax system according to what you earn etc

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MK ..... I can tell you for sure that courier drivers in particular are generally totally shafted by the companies they work for ...... they get paid per job or drop or whatever and it's then a case of like it or lump it

cynic - 26 Nov 2013 15:55 - 33352 of 81564

hays - that lives on the gaza thread, but you know my lower-than-a-snake's-belly view of Israel and that issue (among others)

MaxK - 26 Nov 2013 16:02 - 33353 of 81564

cynic.

Yes, the delivery guys really are getting the royal shaft.

Between 70p and a quid per drop.

They are losing money every time they start the van up.

No way can you run a large van on that sort of money (and make a profit)
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