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The really useful silver thread (AG)     

squirrel888 - 12 Jun 2013 10:30

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gazkaz - 09 Jul 2013 14:53 - 336 of 1034

Snurkle - if you remember the Chilean miner who took on Barrick gold - over the ownership title of the Pascua Lama

Coincidence ??
(or nice cover story :o)

Barrick Mining - expects to book.... $4.5-$5.5 bln impairment charge... on Pascua-Lama

TORONTO, June 28 (Reuters) - Barrick Gold Corp said on Friday it is slowing construction at its Pascua-Lama gold project in South America,
- as it looks to rein in spending on the severely delayed project,
- already billions of dollars over budget.

gazkaz - 09 Jul 2013 15:33 - 337 of 1034

Wow it's hot out there (missing the sea breeze already)
- preparing/& repairing :o(... an 8ftx8ft up and over "wooden" garage door ready for painting.

Mabel
re Vitamins - Vitamin D essential for a healthy immune system
- your skin makes oodles of it when exposed to the sun
(hence why - we tend to get bugs and flu's in feb - ie just when your body's summer made stores of vit D run down).

Big profits for the pharma/mafia
1 - keep out the sun, you could get skin cancer - you don't make vit D, you get ill - big bucks profits.

2 - lather up in those ..big bucks profit... multi chemical sunscreens - your skin absorbs all those chemicals - compromises your health/immune system - you get ill....so even more big bucks profits.

Did an experiment way back in school days in chemistry - dipped just a finger
- in a solution (Probably DMSO) - with aniseed in it
- you could taste the aniseed within ....2 seconds
(used to demonstrate just how absorbent your skin is)

As to sunscreens
- a retired chemist once told me - if you don't know what it is, can't pronounce it or.......if you wouldn't eat or drink it.
..."for goodness sake don't put it on your skin !!"

The other essential for the immune system is Vitamin C

- nearly all other mammals make it themselves
(I think it's just humans and something like guniea pigs/hamsters who are ...an enzyme short.. in being able to make it ithemselves).

When other mamals get ill their body's production of Vit C - goes thro' the roof
- but as we can't make it - we have to injest it
(again from memory most plant/vegetables even meat/dairy eggs contain elements of it, not just citrous fruits.
...so the fast food eaters....oops again on that one too)

It's from memory but I think Big Pharma manufactures most Vit C supplements - from corn
(& 80% plus U.S corn is.....yes...you guessed....genetically modified)

gazkaz - 10 Jul 2013 01:26 - 338 of 1034

As of today GFO rates on gold are now negative out to 6m

In a nutshell this means :-

The GOFO is the interest rate that you would pay
- to borrow dollars
- and use gold as collateral for the loan.

Obviously with collateral like gold, the interest rate you pay to borrow dollars would be lower than if you were borrowing the dollars unsecured.
- If the GOFO is negative, it means
- that someone is willing.... to lend you dollars
- AND pay you .....interest
- in exchange for use of ....your gold as collateral.
It's really someone borrowing your gold with interest .....and putting up dollars as collateral.

The only reason this would occur
- is if someone desperately needs to get their hands on gold
- but thinks they'll be able to return it within the time frame of the loan - out now to six months in this case. A negative rate out to 6 months tells us t
- hat there's a big delivery shortage
- and bullion banks are willing to pay an interest rate..... to borrow gold.... and put up dollars as collateral.
- It also tells us that gold today is worth more than gold re-delivered out to 6 months.

In addition
- Comex Gold futures contracts are in - backwardation too
- in a nutshell - it costs more to buy gold delivered ....now
- than it does to buy in 3/6 months time
- normally the reverse is true (ie why would you sell your gold - at less than you could sell it for today - and then wait 3/6 months for your money)

This suggests people need to/or are willing to pay a premium to ge hold of physical ....now
- rather than waiting to (hopefully) get it cheaper later, by waiting.

Taking the above two pointers together - perhaps a desperate scramble to get hold of physical metal.

A couple of weeks ago - the Vietnamese Gov actioned off some "physical" gold - it obtained....
- nearly $300 per oz over....the prevailing comex spot price at the time.

gazkaz - 10 Jul 2013 01:39 - 339 of 1034

let's consider this month's Bank Participation Report. This aggregated report gives us a once-a-month look at the gross positions of those traders classified as banks, both U.S. and non-U.S. Now ...
- check this out...let's start with the report from.... last October
(so that you can see from this perspective just how steep the changes have been in the nine months since).

GROSS LONG / GROSS SHORT

U.S. Banks 40,625 / 146,809

Non U.S. Banks 34,881 / 113,445

TOTAL 75,506 / 248,254

And now here are the numbers from last month (June).
Note that the banks had moved from ......net short position of 172,748
- to a small net long position of 4,582.

GROSS LONG / GROSS SHORT

U.S. Banks 56,751 / 27,129

Non U.S. Banks 24,035 / 49,075

TOTAL 80,786 / 76,204

Well, we've all been waiting with baited breath for the July report.
- Would the banks continue to cover on these falling prices
- or were they adding to the downside momentum?
We got our answer:

GROSS LONG / GROSS SHORT

U.S. Banks 69,565 / 24,939

Non U.S. Banks 34,904 / 58,565

TOTAL 104,560 / 83,859

The total .....net long position
- grew by over 16,000 contracts to an astounding 20,701.

Join the dots - the paper price crash - has allowed a massive net short position - to be covered.....and a net long position being established.....and growing :o)

gazkaz - 10 Jul 2013 02:03 - 340 of 1034

Worth reading this hedge fund manager's comments re - the gold that his funds refiner - claims they have been smelting ( & importantly the origin stamps on it - before.....they re-smelted it)

Hong Kong hedge fund manager William Kaye
- re the missing Fed .....and German gold,
- where it has gone, and how much gold the People’s Bank Of China (PBOC) really owns.
Kaye, who 25 years ago worked for Goldman Sachs in mergers and acquisitions, and also ran money for George Soros,

My sources tell me that contrary to the public numbers that are available,
- China has anywhere between 4,000 to possibly 8,000 tons of (physical) gold

Gold has been leased out, and we do know this (takes place) because
- it’s been admitted to by the major central banks. The Fed has admitted it, the European Central Bank has admitted it, the Bank of England has admitted it. They’ve all admitted that they engage in wholesale leasing of gold to the market.

In practice how that (leasing) works is the Fed would contact their agent, typically JP Morgan, sometimes Goldman Sachs, and they would say, ‘OK, the gold price needs to be capped, so here is 20, 30, 40, 50 tons (of gold) that we’re going to lease out to you as our agent. But in theory
- we can call it back.’

That’s a great theory, but in reality it’s nonsense because
- once JP Morgan and Goldman Sachs get the gold they sell it into the market.
- So these bullion banks then become net-short gold.
(And the Fed says, ‘Well, we still have a contract where in theory we can claim the gold. So we’re going to report that we still own it in the official documents.’)

But in reality the gold has been sold into the market.
- That gold winds up in places like Beijing.
- But before it gets to Beijing it frequently goes through Hong Kong.
- And when it goes to Hong Kong,
------it goes to our refiner, -----------the same people we use.

And by the way,
- we may own some of the gold .......that Germany thinks that they own.
- But Germany will never see that gold
- because it’s safely stored in my account (and) for our investors...... at the Hong Kong International Airport.

Regarding that gold, which could have had...... the symbol of the Bundesbank on it when it arrived in Hong Kong,
- a leading refiner,
- one of the biggest in the world that deals with the People’s Bank of China (PBOC), certified that.......
- , ‘Yes, we’ve got gold available that we can deliver.
- We’ve melted it down, we’ve tested it.
- It may have had...... the Bundesbank symbol.... on it - when it arrived,
- but now .........it’s melted down .9999 (fine) gold.’

That’s how it works in practice.
- So the Fed gold, that Americans think is theirs, is gone.
- The gold that the Germans have been told they will get back in 7 years,...... they’ll never get back because .........it doesn’t exist anymore (at the Fed).

I own it.
- The People’s Bank of China owns it.
- The Reserve Bank of India owns it.
- The central bank of Russia owns it.

But the people of Germany (and America)...... don’t own it.”

gazkaz - 10 Jul 2013 02:12 - 341 of 1034

Well it's 2am
- and I think that the above (barring an unforeseen black swan event) paints a favourable outlook for metals prices.
- and incidentally if the Morgue fully settled it's outstanding comex deliveries for May ?? and June
- from it's dealer invent/ory
- it would be nearly 100,000 oz....short (ie negative)

Goodnight.

squirrel888 - 10 Jul 2013 18:21 - 342 of 1034

This thread is LIT. Well done Gaz.

On vit D - I do not use suncreens. Dry off in sun after swimming & getting a lovely tan without burning. Also greater degree of insights/dreams.

Vit C - a lemon a day.

No supplements.

Swimming best exercise - although building muscle which weighs heavier than fat :-(

gazkaz - 10 Jul 2013 20:24 - 343 of 1034

Squirrell - it seems you are either already either wise, well informed, well read or just intuitive on the health fron (or maybe just ..all 4 :o)

gazkaz - 10 Jul 2013 20:30 - 344 of 1034

Interesting chart - highlighting the tops and bottoms -vs- "net" commercial overall positions
- this ends at the latest COT report
(The info I posted yesterday highlights the massive swing towards a net long, and the other article suggests since the last COT report...that swing will now have gone...net long)




“The COT data for week ending 7/2 show a 35% reduction in Net Commercial Position to ‐22,776 contracts ... the least Net Short reading since Jan 8, 2002
(when gold was $279/oz).

Based on the trend history & with a Net Long reading not far off (if not already achieved since cut off)
- a significant upside reversal for gold iwould seem ......clearly in the works.

gazkaz - 10 Jul 2013 21:08 - 345 of 1034

Before the "public show" of FEDy dissunity
- taper now
- end puchases june
- end purchases Sept 2013/or 2014

Members show their "real unity" behind the scenes :o)

snurkle1 - 11 Jul 2013 07:43 - 346 of 1034

Hi Gaz,

Good to have you back buddy. Glad to hear you've had a good time on the 'other side'.
As of tomorrow I will be off the planet for 4 days as I'm on a little island in Holland spending QT with my family. There is no internet full stop and as my phone is still one from the 80's.... (it has buttons), no capability .........bliss.
The weather is to be great so timing couldn't have been better.

DE really is indeed a great cleanser.

I'll let them know next door you're back as they were asking after you.

gazkaz - 11 Jul 2013 08:51 - 347 of 1034

Snurkle
- have a really great time and enjoy time both with family - and being off planet.
It's quite rejuvenating, and lets you clear your mind of all trivial distractions, and contemplate the big picture of who & what is really important in life.

Regarding phones, I have gone to contract SIM only - as they couldn't offer me a phone with buttons at my contract renewal, then went a step further and went back to my phone before last (it was an early model with internet access capability, but never use it)

When I was away, there was a young girl (around 15) - spent about 3 days virtually sat in the car with her phone plugged in charge (presumably living on facebook). When she ventured out to the shower block, she hardly looked up from her phone, and when her parents drove off, she was nose glued to her phone.
(quite sad to be oblivious of the world and those around her)

I await the day, when someone says I have a bluetooth inserted in my rear end with a sensor, which has a live feed to my facebook.
- When I fart, it feeds an odour-ometer app on my phone that rates the smell and puts it straight up on my facebook page, and updates my chart position amongst my friends.

Have a fantastic time away...from it all.

gazkaz - 11 Jul 2013 08:55 - 348 of 1034

I think everything above points to the bottom being in (or thereabouts), however TPTB can always take it where they wish - if they still want to drain GLD further, stock up with physical on the cheap, and book some more paper profits.

I would imagine the Morgue are delivering their outstanding contracts via baskets bought and delivered from GLD physical
(as mentioned above they are significantly short of dealer inventory metal - to meet their outstanding May (overdue) and June deliveries.

gazkaz - 11 Jul 2013 08:57 - 349 of 1034

Ever since the take-down of the price of silver in April, silver warehouse stocks
- have been declining in a large way at the Shanghai Futures Exchange.
- At the peak on April 12th, the Shanghai Futures Exchange held 1,124 tonnes of silver at its warehouses.
- However, just six weeks later, ........360 tonnes or 32% were removed.
- In less than 3 months, a total of... 511 tonnes (45%) of silver... have been removed from the Shanghai Futures exchange.

This is almost half... of all the silver stored at the exchange. [

gazkaz - 11 Jul 2013 09:16 - 350 of 1034

Seems suprising nobody has mentioned .....that the Rothkiddies are working on plans to break up one of the big UK banks into - a good bank - and...a bad bank
- and report their plan to gov't - within 2 months

Good Bank/Bad Bank.....that's Cyprus style ??
- the BofE has been putting the paperwork is in place to apply the Cyprus template...in the UK
- and the Co-op bond holders, recently got a ...small taste of it ...in action
(with no MSM outcry, or blaze of publicity)

Jim Willie puts Barclays "on the brink" too
- and strangely no update since they were being investigated - for actually...
- lending the money - to the Saudis...to fund their own "non gov't bailout" of themselves.

I think before the end of the year, the sheeps, will be ..rudely stirred...from their snoozing

gazkaz - 11 Jul 2013 14:53 - 351 of 1034

Nick Laird of Sharelynx.com informs- that Brinks is 'now being depleted'
- of ...private ...gold holdings.

In referring to the registered supply at Brinks, Nick notes that:

"Brinks is now being depleted.
- They have gone from 447,199 on July 3rd
- to 134,525 on July 9th which is ......a drop of 312,674 oz."
- If this is correct, then this is a decline of..... 70 percent .....in the gold "held in private accounts " at Brinks in....... just one week.

If this is data is correct, it would not be too much of a stretch to say that this has the appearance of .........'a run on the bank.'
Unless CME issues a correction ...... It seems almost incredible.

Where is the gold going?
- It was not transferred from the registered to eligible category,
- and does not seem to have been transferred to any other COMEX vault.
I suspect it is flowing East. And perhaps it is being taken to replace gold that ......has been rehypothecated from custodial vaults somewhere.


JessesC

gazkaz - 11 Jul 2013 15:23 - 352 of 1034

Make sense of this Bullsh@t from the FT


The cost of borrowing gold.... has risen to the highest since the post-Lehman Brothers...... scramble for supplies,
as the bullion market adjusts to a new era in which Western investor demand is less dominant.

The niche gold lending market, largely the preserve of a few big banks and central banks, has been uneventful in recent years as investors have built up large holdings and lent them out on the market, keeping rates depressed.
(Makes sense so far)

But as investors have .....turned sellers in recent months,
- availability of gold in the lending market .....has been squeezed, bankers said
(so everybody is selling - lol - but availabity of gold is......squeezed ????)

The squeeze has triggered..... a sharp rise in gold leasing rates
- the implied interest rate for lending gold in the market in exchange for dollars
- to the highest since early 2009.

The move reflects the dramatic shift in the gold market over the past few months as investors ....have liquidated their holdings en masse,..... triggering a 25 per cent collapse in prices since the start of the year.
(Liquidated en masse - & yet there's a shortage of available gold....forcing leasing rates higher ?????)

"There has been some borrowing interest recently.
- It's related to the demand..... for physical,"
said Joni Teves, precious metals strategist at UBS, noting that the price
- of physical gold - in China remained more than $40 an ounce above benchmark London spot prices.

Conclusion
- everybody ...has turned sellers & there has been "liquidation en masse"
- but the chinese are paying $40 premiums - refineries are working flat out to meet demand and lease rates have incresed due to - lack of....... available gold
- with the bonus that ......all this "turned sellers" & "liquidations en masse"
has resulted in
"The squeeze has triggered..... a sharp rise in gold leasing rates"

http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/bd819998-e8b2-11e2-8e9e-00144feabdc0.html#axzz2YXwV23J1

So the FT is arguing
- the price has falen due to holders selling and liquidations en masse
- yet
- due to lack of availability of - said gold
- they are resorting to....leasing it
- and due to a shortage of ....leased gold
- lease rates have jumped upwards

What a fecking crock of .....journalistic contradictory nonsensical SH!TE


gazkaz - 11 Jul 2013 15:36 - 353 of 1034

The London Whale - LieBOR rigging, interest rate swap fiddling, Maddof, MFG co-mingling investor funds and re-hypothecation now

THIRD-largest-futures-broker-gets-RECORD FINE- for hft-stock-market-...MANIPULATION - but- NO ...Jail Time...AGAIN

gazkaz - 11 Jul 2013 20:42 - 354 of 1034

New study finds antibiotics cause oxidative stress - and damages ....DNA
-app 3mins long
(Then see following article re....silver :o)

gazkaz - 11 Jul 2013 20:58 - 355 of 1034

James Collins, a biomedical engineer at Boston University in Massachusetts,
- has described how silver....... can disrupt bacteria,
- and shown that the ancient treatment could help to deal with the thoroughly modern...... scourge of antibiotic resistance.
- The work is published today..... in Science Translational Medicine.

“Resistance is growing, while the number of new antibiotics in development is dropping,” says Collins. “We wanted to find a way to make what we have work better.”

Collins and his team found that silver — in the form of dissolved ions — attacks bacterial cells in two main ways:
- it makes the cell membrane more permeable,
- and it interferes with the cell’s metabolism, leading to the overproduction of reactive, and often toxic, oxygen compounds.
Both mechanisms could potentially be harnessed to make today’s antibiotics more effective against resistant bacteria, Collins says.

Resistance is futile
Many antibiotics are thought to kill their targets by producing reactive oxygen compounds, and Collins and his team showed that

- when boosted with.... a small amount of silver..... these drugs could kill between
- 10 and...... 1,000 times as many bacteria.

The increased membrane permeability also allows more antibiotics to enter the bacterial cells, which may overwhelm the resistance mechanisms that rely on shuttling the drug back out.

That disruption to the cell membrane also increased the effectiveness of vancomycin, a large-molecule antibiotic, on Gram-negative bacteria — which have a protective outer coating. Gram-negative bacterial cells can often be impenetrable to antibiotics made of larger molecules.

“It’s not so much a silver bullet; more a silver spoon to help the Gram-negative bacteria take their medicine,” says Collins.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=....silver-makes-antibiotics...-thousands-of-times-more-effective

I think most board regulars/lurker readers :o)

Are aware of colloidal silver - trouble is they can't patent it
- so if c/s does what it says in the above, why the add antibiotics
(other than excuse to then charge the earth for a patentable product of course)
...as once c/s does the business ....your immune system (I will say.... probably :o)
- can probably finish the job

Plus side at least patients may benefit (at last) from the silver
- &....another demand booster for silver too !
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