Will this increase or decrease the likelihood of terrorist actions in America, Europe and the rest of the world?

If you were a member of a family murdered in this conflict, would you be seeking revenge?

Should Tzipi Livni and Ehud Olmert, be tried for war crimes if or when this conflict comes to an end?

What will the price of oil be in 4 weeks time?

Israel, Let MeCount The Ways By Mark Glenn1-10-6 Today, while driving through town, I wound up behind a minivan that had a big sticker on the back. The sticker had an Israeli flag in the middle of it, and under it the quotation from the book of Genesis that reads "I will bless those who bless thee."I would like to take this time to list my own reasons for thanking and blessing Israel, our lone ally in the Middle East, for everything she has done for us, since I am quite sure most Americans are unaware of just what kind of friend she has been to us.For extorting from me and my fellow Americans $16,000,000,000 (billion) a year for the last 4 decades, we bless thee.For taking our most sophisticated weapons technology and stealing it for yourself without paying the American patent holders, we bless thee.For taking that high-tech military technology and selling it to our enemies, such as the Russians and Chinese, thus further endangering us, we bless thee.For using that weaponry in a sustained attack against a United States ship, the USS Liberty, in an attempt to sink her, thus preventing US servicemen from revealing to the rest of the world information concerning the war crimes they witnessed you commit against Egyptian soldiers in the Sinai Desert during the Six Day War, we bless thee.For killing 35 and wounding 170 American sailors aboard the USS Liberty, we bless thee.For bribing the United States government into covering it up, preventing any justice from being done for the benefit of the families of the lost sailors - as well as the American People, we bless thee.For sending your agents into Egypt and blowing up American buildings for the purpose of blaming the Arabs in an event known as the Lavon Affair, we bless thee.For sending your agents into Libya during the Reagan administration, and broadcasting radio messages in Arabic that were designed to sound like "terrorist cell planning" so that the US would initiate military strikes against Khadafi, we bless thee.For withholding information from us concerning the planned attacks against the US Marine barracks in Lebanon, attacks you knew about through your moles in the Islamic world and about which you deliberately refused to warn us in order to further your interests against the Arabs, we bless thee.For employing Jonathon Pollard, an American serviceman paid to spy for Israel in order to steal even more of our National Security secrets for your parasitic purposes, we bless thee.For blackmailing President Clinton through one of your intelligence agents, Monica Lewinsky, in order to prevent a coherent peace program from being pushed forward between yourself and the Palestinian people that you have brutalized and murdered for the last 50 years, we bless thee.For breaking every agreement you have made with your Arab neighbors, stealing their land, displacing, murdering, and treating them like the animals you see them as, we bless thee.For using your agents within the first Bush administration to involve us in the first Gulf War, causing the deaths of American men and women, and exposing our servicemen to whatever bioweapons were/are responsible that has led to Gulf War Syndrome, we bless thee.For your role in the September 11 attacks in this country, and for blackmailing and bribing the US government into deporting back to Israel the 100 or more intelligence agents that were arrested after the attacks, we bless thee.For supressing the information from the American people of your involvement in the September 11 attacks and sending us in the wrong direction in search of answers, we bless thee.For using one of your agents in the US Army Weapons Lab, Lt Colonel Philip Zack to steal anthrax and distribute it into our mail system, terrorizing US citizens and killing several in order to blame the Arabs, we bless thee.For using your agents in the US Government, namely, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Perle, Abrams, and the rest into initiating this war in the Middle East so that you could bring to heel all the enemies you have made during the last 50 years, we bless thee.For using your agents in the media to lie to us on a minute by minute basis about the war, how "just" this cause is, and what the real reasons behind it are, we bless thee.For using your agents in the Christian Evangelical community, such as Falwell, Graham, Swaggert, and the rest who praise you as God's chosen people and further keep Americans in the dark about who you really are, what you have done, and what you are truly about, we bless thee.For bringing idiots like Limbaugh, Liddy, Hannity, Beck, and Savage to the forefront as paid liars that will support you and further lead Americans astray, we bless thee.For making America your attack dog, and for sending her sons and daughters to fight and die in all your future wars, we bless thee.For using your influence in the media to hide the real statistics about the war, the dead and wounded on both sides, we bless thee.For using us in such a way that not only further inflames the Arab world against us, but as well has succeeded in our alienating ourselves against those nations with whom we have been friendly for over a century, we bless thee.And finally, for using your influence in our media and academia to flood our minds with pornography and lies, as well as inculcating in us a hatred for our history, religion, and culture, for dividing our nation between races and sexes, and for releasing into our society all of your plagues and filth that have left us a rotted out corpse of a once great nation, oh Israel, our friend,we bless thee.Note:For further information regarding the above cited events, read either books written by ex- Israeli Intelligence agent Victor Ostrovsky entitled "By Way of Deception" and "The Other Side of Deception".Mark Glenn is an American and former high school teacher turned writer / commentator. mrkglenn@yahoo.com

Congratulations fahel you have just won the MAM all-comers longest paragraph award.. Please except our congratulations -):

Longest and most difficult to read!

And most full of crap

So many superlatives in a single post! Well done fahel!

fahel has taken lessons from haycrapper -
Copy and paste - the wanker's substitute for multiple orgasms

fahel-if you believe that Israel was at all invoved in 9/11-which you must as you have posted it, than there is no hope for you.

Most of what I had to read through filled me with sadness as most of it is totally false. Another version of the Protocols of Zion.

Poor misguided soul-so full of hatred.

funny old life, but despite a couple of requests no one has thought to respond to my post 3433, which cc'd below ..... so i ask again ....

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i have not and have no need to watch U-tube propaganda

however, the Ground Zero argument is no counter.
it could/should be questioned from where the $70m required is coming (shame it hasn't gone to help their brothers in pakistan!) and certainly it is very insensitive and arguably intentionally provocative, notwithstanding that there can be no LEGAL objection

it is of course supremely ironic that non-islamic nations are supremely careful about not causing offense (being insensitive!) and the wrath of Allah or worse is called to rain down on those who dare or even are deemed through some warped logic to have transgressed

I don't think it matters either way. The fact that Bin Laden was a muslim had no relevance. It is the same as condemning Christians because some peopole behave badly in the name of Christianity. If people want to put up a buildin sg for the worship of extra-terestial beings then why not let them. A more important point is whether to subsidise any faith schools and give them preferencial tax treatment. why not have a school getting special treatment that has Father Christmas worship at its core or the sturdy of fairies.

as i am sure you were told at school, "Answer the question asked, not the one you wanted to be asked" ...... now try again

Actually that post above does not even look like s question. If it is then what is the question?

Cynic,

One answer to your question???

The money for the building in / on ground zero area was agreed to before the floods etc. in Pakistan. (Ie."gifted to" or contracted to.)

Superficially, which seems to suit you, it could be considered provocative, but I believe in Jerusalem there are Synagogues built next to Mosques and many people of both faiths to community got on well together and supported and help members of either group.

I am not an adherer of any religion and a religious sceptic, but it is interesting to me many members of my wife's family are of Christian faith. some Orthodox, Catholic Protestant and others are of Moslem background, with of course a fair smattering of atheists. (No Jewish members, but some Jewish friends, not sure how that religion escaped.)

Strange all the family are accepting and respecting of each other.

That is tolerant and not damming.

I think your attempt at provocation, is due to your underlying lack of tolerance.

You seem to have grown older, but not matured.

The money side of it not of any business of anyone. It would be the same as when a church or synagogue is built and people might ask why the money was not spent on some humanitarian cause. i have a lot of sympathy as I can't stand any religion. I am not pro-Muslim, far from it. I would be anti-mulsim as with any faith. My complaints about Israel is not religion based. It is based on the Palestinian cause and the bad treatment by Israel.

BBC today

The European Union has criticised Israel for convicting an organiser of weekly Palestinian protests against the West Bank separation barrier.

EU foreign policy chief Catherine Ashton said she was "deeply concerned" about Abdullah Abu Rahmeh, who now faces several years in prison.

She said he was a "human rights defender" committed to non-violent protest.

Israel's foreign ministry described her statement as highly improper.

Jailed since December, Abdullah Abu Rahmeh was convicted by a military court on Tuesday of inciting protests in the West Bank village of Bilin and of participating in the protests without a legal permit.

Lady Ashton expressed deep concern "that the possible imprisonment of Mr Abu Rahmeh is intended to prevent him and other Palestinians from exercising their legitimate right to protest against the existence of the separation barriers in a non-violent manner," her office said.

"The EU considers the route of the barrier where it is built on Palestinian land to be illegal," it quoted her as saying in a statement.

Her statement drew a sharp rebuke from Israeli Foreign Ministry spokesman Yigal Palmor, who said that any "interference with a transparent legal procedure is highly improper".

Sentencing is scheduled for next month, after which Abu Rahmeh - a 39-year-old schoolteacher - will appeal the conviction, his lawyer has said.

Activists have been protesting against the barrier for five years in what they say are mostly peaceful demonstrations. Some demonstrations have been attended by stone-throwing Palestinian youths.

Israel says it considers the protests to be "violent and illegal". Israeli security services have fired tear gas, stun grenades, rubber bullets and on occasion live rounds at protesters.

There have been two fatalities among protesters and an American peace activist suffered brain damage after being hit by a tear gas canister.

Israel says the barrier was established to stop Palestinian suicide bombers entering from the West Bank.

But Palestinians point to its route, winding deep into the West Bank around Israeli settlements - which are illegal under international law - and say it is a way to grab territory they want for their future state.

In 2004, the International Court of Justice in The Hague issued an advisory ruling that the barrier was illegal and should be removed where it did not follow the Green Line, the internationally recognised boundary between the West Bank and Israel.

the situation in jerusalem is very different.

Ground Zero, for very obvious reasons, is highly sensitive to the american psyche - and quite rightly too.
there are, or so i believe, a couple of other mosques within a few blocks so to build another within the immediate vicinity, would seem at best, totally insensitive and at worst, intentionally and downright provocative.

i will accept your point that money to set up this building was promised before the floods in pakistan, but nevertheless, it would be prudent for the authorities to check its provenance, as indeed would be done here.

as for lacking tolerance, it cuts both ways, which you seem to have ignored.
indeed, tolerance implies an appreciation of the sensitivities of others.
the "noisy" muslims are very quick to take affront for alleged insensitivity (intolerance), though the same choose to be blind to similar in others - as in this instance

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meanwhile, your buddy Bullseye cannot even perceive the question, so clearly beyond his abilities to answer it .... no surprise there i guess

I'd be more inclined to ban all churches, mosques and synagogues anywhere unless they pay taxes, rates etc like any business and allow them no special privilages or status.

Cynic,

From a little hearing of a brief interview of those supporting and involved the "Moslem building" in Ground Zero, they appeared to be attempting to be conciliatory, although I thought slightly naive and their timing could have been better.

Ie. I wouldn't have done it there and now, but the one thing I remember was in spite of all the previous killings, Golda Meir and Egyptian President Anwar Sadat "shook hands" and negotiated.

It may have been wrong, but both sides attempted to change and move on.

i think you are being very naive or should i say, incredibly gullible ..... conciliatory in even proposing to build a mosque on this site can scarcely be thought of as conciliatory .... perhaps i am being stupid, but please explain

do you think that the authorities in UAE, let alone Saudi or Syria or Iran or similar, would allow an anglican church, let alone a synagogue, to be built within sight (i would like to say spitting distance) of one of their mosques, let alone one of high profile?

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Bullseye - you're a total arsehole and as usual your post has no intelligence or relevance whatsoever

cynic
Why does it matter if Saudi would not allow the same thing? It seems to me that the US is just being open minded and showing a lack of prejudice.

if you have time watch this video and then pass it on

http://www.youtube.com/user/n1n2n3n4100#p/f/138/eAaQNACwaLw

don't confuse what the law will allow (and in this instance the constitution too) and what common human decency should dictate - i.e. respect for the feelings of others ....

however, i note that you tacitly agree that no moslem country would entertain for one millisecond the idea of a "foreign" church being built within spitting distance (sorry, sight) of one of their mosques ..... so yes, it does matter; as my grandfather said, "treat others as you would like to be treated"