Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

David Cameron has warned that he will veto the admission of new countries to the European Union unless they accept tough new rules on immigration.

The Prime Minister issued the warning about countries such as Albania and Serbia that could be next in line to become EU members.

Speaking at a press conference during the European Council meeting in Brussels, he said: "I would make the point that, on new accessions, they are by unanimity, so they don’t happen unless everybody agrees.

"So you have a real opportunity, irrespective of treaty change, to insist on a different approach."

One idea Mr Cameron is keen to explore is requiring countries to reach a certain income level before free movement is allowed, or allowing individual member states to impose a cap on the number of EU migrants entering the countries each year.

This what happens when you have a socialist government as in France

French officials have fined a pub in Brittany €9,000 for “undeclared labour” after a customer returned some empty glasses to the bar.

For customers at the Mamm-Kounifl concert-café in Locmiquélic, carrying drinks trays and used glasses back to the bar was a polite tradition.

But for social security agency URSAFF, it was also an infringement of labour laws because customers were acting like waiters, French local newspaper Le Télégramme reported.

“Around half-past midnight, a customer returned a drinks tray. She passed by the bar to go to the toilets. That was when it all kicked off. My husband was pinned against the glass by a man. A woman leapt on me, showing her ID card and that’s when I realised it was a URSSAF check. They told me I had been caught using undeclared labour,” owner Markya Le Floch told Le Télégramme.

The authorities initially fined the pub owners €7,900 and briefly placed them in police custody. Customers vouched for the owners and they escaped charges, but URSSAF are still pursuing a social case and are now seeking €9,000 due to non-payment of the original fine.

What amuses me is that the Con party when they were previously a "government" agitated for an enlarged EU community. (Probably, in attempts to sabotage its development ) Many thought it to early to do so and would have preferred for a period of consolidation, review and modification of the "constitution" with further and closer integration.)

Of course, hand bag politics for party purposes took over.

However then the UK did have more clout than now.

I was reminded in Paris that little Britain is a little island off shore of Europe and getting less and less important and relevant.

All the prancing and blustering of Cameron for the right wing of the con party and his faint hope of political future are being recognised for what they are, and being dismissed by Europe as a whole. Probably there are a few far right winged and neo-fascist groups who may support him. (They have the same taste in perfume.)

However, many more in Europe would be happy to see the back of Cameron and prepared for the exit of the UK from the Union, if it was prepared to do so.

However, if that was likely to occur Cameron and his cronies would do another U-Turn.

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For yourself, you could make a substitution of "elitist" for "racist".

You could swap UKIP, CAMERON and Con right wing political electioneering for HATE or BNP.

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fred - you're a laugh a minute; well I guess some find you funny ...... because I disagree with much or even most of what you post, you determine that I must have been brainwashed, though by whom you never specify .... mind you, you frequently post that I have no brain, so make your mind up

If Cameroon wanted to put a stop to benefit tourists, all he has to do is change the entitlement rules.


If you have not been a contributor or in full time education for the last 5 years, you are entitled to nothing.


Problem solved, and as it applies to everyone, the €uroloons cannot stick their oar in.

Manuel,

I have to admit that it is probable that you must have a brain.

With a little bit of encouragement I am certain you would find it useful.

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Max,

Guessing, what would be the cost of the system set up to deal with the minuscule amounts of abuses?

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Again, if an individual is working abroad (including the lazy English) falls and breaks his/her arm, or wrist on had debilitating illness and would be able to return to work in 6-12 weeks "lay off" would they not have "support" to keep them off the pavements and food banks etc..

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What would have reduced abuse of "Wealth Fare Claims" would have been the proposed ID cards, which would have, if used appropriately, helped to reduce false and duplicated claims.

But the fears were that it would also be used to trace multiple bank accounts used for tax avoidance or transfer of untaxed money out of the UK.

Funny, how some of those who cried out against ID are in favour of Government plundering E-mails and the internet. (Of course under indirect supervision by the "governors".

Apologies Government!

You have to provide an NI number to get a bank account, so ID cards would make no difference. The banks require plenty of identity proof these days. In reality is was mainly the left leaning public that were opposed to ID cards.

Legendary BBC sports presenter David Coleman dies aged 87 after a brief illness

Revealed: The top 50 most desirable places to live in Britain with Hart in Hampshire topping the list for third year in a row


Uttlesford No2 :-))

How is Woking no 37 know one lives in that shi - hole ? :-))

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/mortgageshome/article-2527092/Revealed-The-50-desirable-places-live-Britain.html

Johnny45, Wolverhampton, United Kingdom, 4 hours ago

NO MULTI-CULTURAL CRAP HERE THEN. SHOULD SEE WOLVERHAMPTON., ITS LIKE MOGADISHU!!!

enoch powell spins ever faster in his grave, not least because hordes with machetes are not (yet) roaming the streets

Insight - The Great British tax giveaway


By Tom Bergin

LONDON Fri Dec 20, 2013 9:30am GMT



The sun rises above the financial district of the City of London in this April 23, 2011 file photo. A Reuters examination of available public records has found that for the most recent financial year, British shareholders of at least 11 major blue chip firms have received more in dividend tax credits from the UK tax authority than they lost through the corporate income tax levied on their companies. This means that in effect, the UK government is subsidising them to own shares.

Credit: Reuters/Kieran Doherty/Files



(Reuters) - When Neil Withington, the legal director of British American Tobacco (BAT) and the firm's largest British shareholder, files his next tax return, he will receive a little help from the state. Like every other UK taxpayer, he will be entitled to a tax credit on any dividend payment he receives. He can use it to reduce his total bill.

The credit is intended to compensate shareholders for the fact that dividends are paid out of income which has already been subject to UK corporate income tax. To help avoid the same money being taxed twice, the UK trims its levy on dividends.

There's just one problem: BAT, Europe's biggest cigarette maker by sales, didn't have a UK tax bill at all last year. In fact, its accounts show, over the past six years its total UK tax expense has been zero.


More: http://uk.reuters.com/article/2013/12/20/uk-tax-britain-credits-insight-idUKBRE9BJ09120131220

The top 50 most undesirable places to live in Britain with anywere close to Fred's place coming top.