cynic
- 02 Mar 2011 11:48
starting this thread, which i hope will be short-lived, to keep the board up to date with latest reports gleaned from the net
cynic
- 31 Mar 2011 07:36
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what assad seems to have said is that syria has aspirations to invade israel again -all good domestic propaganda, and of course nothing whatever to do with the LIBYAN CRISIS, which is what this thread is about
if you want to discuss israel and gaza and similar, please use the relevant thread and do not try to highjack this one!
skinny
- 31 Mar 2011 08:05
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UK questions Libyan foreign minister
Libyan Foreign Minister Moussa Koussa has been questioned by officials after arriving in the UK unexpectedly late on Wednesday.
He flew in from Tunisia. The UK Foreign Office said he was "no longer willing" to work for Colonel Gaddafi.
However a Libyan spokesman denied that Mr Moussa had defected and said he was on a diplomatic mission.
cynic
- 31 Mar 2011 08:23
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it is almost certain that Koussa has indeed defected - i wonder if he had already been recruited and was now being pulled in for his own safety ..... if so, there will assuredly be an awful lot of good intelligence info to be gleaned .... however, i'm not sure how much effect his defection will have on weakening MG's grip and the loyalty of his supporters
fahel
- 31 Mar 2011 09:33
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Proof Libyan Invasion was Planned 10 Years in Advance - Occult Connection to March 19 Invasion
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eSb-EpL4fY&NR=1
cynic
- 31 Mar 2011 09:36
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can't be arsed to look at that, but "occult connection" probably says it all - i.e. it's either a deliberate spoof or total rubbish
Stan
- 31 Mar 2011 10:01
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Very revealing Fahel, thank you.
cynic
- 31 Mar 2011 10:21
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nostradamus assuredly predicted similarly ...... uncle adolf used to swear by him
Fred1new
- 31 Mar 2011 10:25
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My wife swears at him!
8-)
cynic
- 31 Mar 2011 10:31
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i didn't mean your bloody cat!
Stan
- 31 Mar 2011 10:51
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Did you actually watch the link cynic?.. you stupid boy -):
Bernard M
- 31 Mar 2011 10:51
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Now now Mr.c talking about pussy will get him going.
TANKER
- 31 Mar 2011 10:54
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DIVINE jailed for 16 months BARONESS UUDINN STILL FREE
Stan
- 31 Mar 2011 11:00
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Wrong thread.
cynic
- 31 Mar 2011 11:10
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no stan, but one can always finds facts to suit purpose and i'm sure the u-tube one does just that ...... but equally i do not think for one moment that any of the unrest across m/e was spontaneous and unfomented from outside
gibby
- 31 Mar 2011 11:15
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Koussa has defected imo
recruited b4 quite certain
imo
Bernard M
- 31 Mar 2011 11:16
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Correct Mr.c
skinny
- 31 Mar 2011 11:22
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Hmmm - I've heard of fomented, but unfomented?
cynic
- 31 Mar 2011 11:25
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it's your lucky day then lol
skinny
- 31 Mar 2011 11:36
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:-)
Fred1new
- 31 Mar 2011 11:43
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Cynic,
My wife can be frightening and I have just shown her your posting and address.
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Right,
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Cynic,
You asked what I my strategy would have been.
(Just skimming the surface of a complex and confusing situation.)
It is supposing that I would have been in a position of authority at the time and in the months prior to the Libyan uprising and cognisant with some detailed knowledge of what was happening in Libya and surrounds.
In addition, that I would be in contact with other leaders in Europe and hopefully not be seen, by them, as a Johnny come Lately.
I.e., an in politically, militarily and economically, integrated member of NATO and the European Union
I would have hoped that at the time of Tunisia and Egyptian uprising that there would have been rapid review of the political situations, and possible political changes in the immediate area and the world in general. (Follow the price of or greed for oil.)
I would have hopefully being drawing up contingency plans for the steps a coalition force could, or should take in response to changes on the ground and what should be the goals if military intervention occurred.
I would have been considering the constituents of that coalition and the command structure of such a body. (Also considering the financing of the necessary bodies.)
Also, the speed at which any plans could be put into action.
I would have been attempting to get the opinion and support of leaders of other countries before strutting and across the international boards and spouting oratory I couldnt back up.
I.e., endangering a more severe back lash from Gaddafi and false hopes and expectancies of those rebelling.
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(In that there is the curse of not having a true international military police force able to act under the auspices of the United Nations, (I have sympathy with N thoughts about the UN, but it the best we have, and could be modified,)
Right, supposing all that had taken place.
I think I would have carried out the actions of the Coalition.
If committed to this action, I would have done my utmost to speed up actions of the force.
I would have frozen all Libyan assets outside Libya.
I would have put a siege on Tripoli and that area.
I would have introduce the NFI, but also attempted to destroy Gaddafis military installations in Tripoli and surrounds.
I would have deliberately targeted Gaddafi.
(It has been done before.)
I would have attempted to destroy any Gaddafi military moving towards of from the East.
I would have accepted the immediate collateral damage of such actions.
As far as destroying communications, power supplies and other parts of the infrastructures are concerned I would leave that to the specialist.
I would put an international military force on the ground, to regain control and law and order.
Accepting the responsibility of the actions that have occurred and managing the move to a humanitarian egalitarian society,
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Brief answer, but full of holes.
The major problem is dealing with the aftermaths, and introducing a democratic government and administration acceptable and to the liking of the general population,
I live in hope.