starting this thread, which i hope will be short-lived, to keep the board up to date with latest reports gleaned from the net

or terrorists.

Depends on the advantage to the supporters.

or anything one chooses, so long as it is apparent about whom one is talking

You and me.

you're the terrorist!

8-)

Many have thought that.

I see Cameron is no longer urging the coalition in any direction.


What a chaotic mess.

He may realise now the difference between posturing and posing with the complications of military intervention.

He is the ghost of Maggie.

make your mind up Fred .... in one breath you berate cameron for taking a leading role, and now you moan that he has apparently taken a step back ...... would your obvious choice of Brown or marxist Milliband have performed better? ...... on second thoughts, you'll have to determine whether or not you can vote for Milliband as he is jewish!

Cynic.

My point I think Cameron is shallow and and a self publicist. I think his policies are ill thought out and he is making more reverse moves than any politician I can remember. I think he is a disaster for this country and feel he has encouraged Libyans on a course to increased bloodshed.
(I hope I am wrong about the latter.)

I think Brown and Milliband superior to Clegg.Cameron and Osborne.

The last comment is at your usual level of Bullshit.

Eat it.

Somebody who thinks Brown is superior to ANYBODY.....!
That makes two Brown lovers in the world, Sarah and freddie

David Cameron rules out deal for Saif Gaddafi.

True right no deals for Gadaffe, and his family execute the lot of them.

fred - as you are clearly died-in-the-wool anti-tory/coalition, your balanced view is clearly worthy of consideration - much as hayseed's on gaza

there are unsubstantiated rumours that GM and his sons are looking for way out - i.e. before the rebels nail them ...... all very interesting but .....

my question is what will then happen to the markets, oil/gold/commodity sectors in particular

once the knee-jerk reaction has been and gone, i think the markets will be pretty selective, but given that the libyan oilfields will need major work, stocks like PFC must surely benefit ..... i don't think the likes of halliburton, schlumberger and technip are quoted on uk markets

Saif wants to become ruler of Libya and is hawking himself around as the saviour.
Why can't he do what ruthless despots normally do and simply knife his papa in the back and proclaim himself God of the Desert Peoples of North Africa and Liberator of Benghazi...........

Saif pissing against the wind to hold onto power and oodles and oodles of loot ..... booted straight into touch; indeed, straight over the grandstand!

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not really on subject, but interesting - or at least i think so .....

sitting here in dubai, it gives a good opportunity to read Gulf News, many of whose articles are interesting and taken (and attributed!) from other sources

Iran
if it weren't so serious, it would be hilarious ..... ahmadinejad has the gall to berate gcc (the gulf states) for interfering in bahrain ..... inter alia, about bahrain, he says "the people have demands, so listen to them" - just as his mob would in tehran i take it!

ahmedinejad also takes the oppotunity for his usual rabid rant against israel and his wish for its destruction ..... interestingly, the iranian constitution safeguards the right of freedom of worship within iran .... political words can claim the one has nothing to do with the other, but the reality speaks otherwise


Egypt
there is clearly great fear among the educated egyptian populace, that the muslim brotherhood - islamic fundamentalist at heart, and in its own way rather like the ira - will eventually take over ..... it is thought that mb is too fragmented to make too great an impact in the forthcoming elections, but by the time of the next ones in 2015, the situation may well be different


Libya
a partisan article from official rep to usa of the rebel "gov't" - quicker than writing Transitional National Council for the Libyan Republic! - says they need material help desperately
lots of promises about what "their" gov't would do and allow - e.g. free elections; free press; lots of welfare; no toleration of al qaeda etc etc

Cynic.

I see our firm PM, Cameron is proposing another change of ill thought out policy.

I think anyone signing a piece of paper with his name on would consider less worth than the paper itself.

Must be going down a bomb in Pakistan, his new retreat from London stage.

He is being laughed at in Europe.

now try writing something useful instead of your usual morning rant

How on earth do you think you can have a rational debate with the likes of freddienobrains, fahel and the hay parrot ?

freddie actually has a decent brain, but it seems to be on holiday quite a lot of the time

Perhaps it's just rusty and frequently seizes up.

Maybe he is related to one of these.