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Traders Thread & Thoughts - Monday 2nd February (BAA)     

Crocodile - 01 Feb 2004 11:54

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More cases of 'Bird Flu' drive Hong Kong stocks lower: Analysts predicting the FTSE 100 will continue to fall from January highs as investors await a likely interest rate hike and eye results from Shell.

BAA airports operator posted a one percent rise in operating profit to 500 million pounds for the nine months compared to analysts expecting 492 million. Sales rose by 3.5 percent to 1.54 billion pounds and they said airlines confidence and a solid economy would underpin strong passenger growth.  December traffic hit a record.

Securicor said it was in talks over a nil-premium merger with Danish rival Group 4. The merged business would be listed in both London and Copenhagen.

Filtronic maker of wireless telecoms components reported first-half profits of 2.2 million pounds well above market forecasts of 0.8 million.Rio Tinto the world's second largest miner, said its second-half profit fell 10.5 percent as strong China demand was offset by weak coal earnings and a rising Australian dollar. Profit fell to $741 million from $828 million a year earlier compared with an average analyst forecast, excluding a gain from the sale of its 50 percent interest in Indonesia's Kaltim Prima Coal.

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ThePlayboy - 02 Feb 2004 15:02 - 35 of 48

ism 63.6 worse

prodman - 02 Feb 2004 15:05 - 36 of 48

3:01 pm 02/02/2004
Next chairman David Jones sells 200,267 shares

LONDON (AFX) - Next PLC, the fashion retailer, said chairman David Jones
last week sold more than 200,000 shares in the company.
On Jan 28, he sold 175,000 shares at 1288 pence a share and 25,267 at 1290pence.
The disposals will have netted Jones about 2.6 mln stg before dealing costs.
At 2.49 pm, shares in Next were down 17 pence at 1269.

little woman - 02 Feb 2004 15:44 - 37 of 48

Could you see us getting away with this!

DENVER (AP)--As Colorado struggles with crippling drought, lawmakers and others are beginning to scrutinize electrical generating plants, which sucked up 21 billion gallons in 2001.

"Power plants are just water hogs," said Matt Baker, executive director of Environment Colorado, a chief proponent of renewable energy. The plants produce energy by heating water into steam that turns giant turbines and cranks out electricity. Environmental groups say it's time for utilities to switch to wind power.

House Speaker Lola Spradley, R-Beulah, introduced legislation to boost the amount of electricity investor-owned utilities get from renewable energy by at least one-half of 1% each year from 2005 through 2020. Power plants in eight Western states pulled 650 million gallons of water a day from rivers, reservoirs or aquifers in 2000, according to "The Last Straw," a study by Western Resource Advocates. The Boulder-based policy and law center favors alternative energy use.

It takes about three-fifths of a gallon of water to produce one kilowatt-hour of electricity, enough to burn a 100-watt light bulb for 10 hours.
Most of that water is lost to steam and pollution, according to "The Last Straw," which is widely cited in the statehouse debate over shifting more of the state's energy load to renewable energy.

Currently, less than 1% of the state's annual power supply comes from renewable resources such as wind and sun.

Xcel Energy (XEL), the state's largest electricity provider, supported a similar Spradley bill last year. That measure was approved by the House and died in the Senate.

little woman - 02 Feb 2004 16:06 - 38 of 48

The banks are getting hammered.

Melnibone - 02 Feb 2004 16:17 - 39 of 48

Jesus wept! I've now uninstalled and reinstalled MM5 3 times.

Finally connected again, but a little late to do anything today.

What this has shown me is that I maybe need another account as a
back-up when one account goes down.

After using normal brokers previously, I've got quite used to paying
no commision or stamp duty trading Cfd's with CMC. So it looks like
I'll have to find a spread-betting account somewhere.

I've been looking at Capital Spreads and Finspreads. Anyone got
any suggestions or experience with other companies that they are using or have used in the past?

Melnibone.

little woman - 02 Feb 2004 17:01 - 40 of 48

Melnibone - Be greatful you couldn't trade today - After a excellent start it went down hill from there!

1655 GMT (Dow Jones) LONDON--FTSE 100 closes -9.3 points or -0.2% at 4381.4, on a volume of 3.69B shares traded, after US Jan ISM data misses consensus expectations, economists say a strong upswing in US economy already been priced in. JP Morgan strategists remain upbeat about the picture for global equity markets. The bank points to a backdrop of strong growth momentum, likely changes in rate expectations and forecast weakening in Asian central bank buying of Treasuries to support its underweight bonds and overweight equities stance. British Airways lead decliners to close -4.1% following a suspected case of bird flu in Germany; Vodafone led telecoms lower on speculation it plans to bid for AT&T. (SMT)

FTreader - 02 Feb 2004 17:28 - 41 of 48

Melinbone, I too use MM5 only one or two glitches today which self corrected. I've been having problems getting statements from them lately on two separate e-mail accounts (aol & blueyonder), they keep telling me the same thing and it doesn't make any difference. Couldn't find any CFD threads but could use some tech help.

BTW, I hear IG are pretty good for spreads, and E-trade provide free level 2 I think on CFDs. Not used either myself though.

little woman - 02 Feb 2004 17:38 - 42 of 48

CMC are considered good for 2 reasons only

1. No dealing charges
2. able to make really small deals (in fact they don't like large deals!)

Most serious traders I know have several accounts, which they change between depending on what they can get out of it!

ThePlayboy - 02 Feb 2004 18:29 - 43 of 48

lw

dealing charge in the skew! no one works for free;)

little woman - 02 Feb 2004 18:33 - 44 of 48

I know - but it's a cheap way to learn about CFD's!

ThePlayboy - 02 Feb 2004 18:34 - 45 of 48

as long as they don,t shaft you along the way then it becomes expensive!

little woman - 02 Feb 2004 18:34 - 46 of 48

I did say there was only 2 good reasons, not reasons why not!

ThePlayboy - 02 Feb 2004 18:38 - 47 of 48

just expressing a fact, not meant aggressively lw

little woman - 02 Feb 2004 19:04 - 48 of 48

Nor me - that's the trouble with typing quickly, (and not actually speaking) you forget the nicities. The ! are with a smile not in anger! I'm just too lazy to add the :-).

We'll have to meet one day, and you'll find though I'm not known for my tact - I don't have a nasty bone in my body -(Terrible judge of people as I always think the best of them! :-))
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