Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

surely not?
surely this fine and strong wannabe PM has enough spine to stand up to union threats?

Of course, I had forgotten how tough Milibland is.

I would think the are less strings attached to EM than the creeping puppeteers tax exiles have on Wavey Dave from the Cayman Isles and the likes.

Sometimes, I think the polls suggesting DC ratings must have been done in the back rooms of the torrid party's clubs.

To me, it appears that Wavey Dave is prepared to bend over back wards and reverse up one way streets, or around any U-bend to cling desperately to power.

Must have had the pattern implanted at his old school.

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Mention Cameron's name and notice the groans produced.

Even amongst the Blue rinsed brigade.

Even before he was elected by block votes over his brother during the Labour leadership contest, Ed Miliband had been a prospective leader with unbreakable ties to the trade unions, especially Unite.

It has been estimated that around 70 per cent of Labour candidates for the 2015 election have links to the trade unions. At least 27 of those are affiliated to the Unite Union through membership, sponsorship or some form of employment.

What will worry the British people is the prospect of a union-puppet like Ed Miliband becoming Prime Minister. The Unions decide his policy, they pick his candidates and they are the biggest donor to the Labour party. The thought of the unions controlling Britain is a worrying one indeed.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-25823217

IMF raises UK economic growth forecast

The International Monetary Fund (IMF) has raised sharply its growth forecast for the UK economy.

It now expects the economy to grow 2.4% this year - faster than any other major European economy - against its previous forecast of 1.9%. In 2015, it expects growth of 2.2%.

The Treasury said the new UK forecast was further evidence that the government's economic plan was working.

I see no reason why the Labour party should not have connections to the Unions who represent a large number of working, middle classes and "professional" classes (BMA for example.

The labour party was spawned from unionism, to deny the body which gave life to them, strikes me as similar to trying to deny your own parenthood, but wanting the benefits from such.

If the members of a union are dissatisfied with the continuing "ties" then they can leave the unions concerned or amend the rules of those bodies.

Personally, I think the unions has a right to represent the group they serve in any appropriate and legal way they consider beneficial to the group.

The same would apply to any representative "body" of a group.
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Personally, I would prefer the relationships to be open to public scrutiny and I would like full examinations of the tax arrangements of those donating funds to the torrid party.

Also, what the groups donating to the Nasty Party expect in return.

I am sure it doesn't stop at a Xmas card or a tap on the shoulder.

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Perhaps, examination of such relationships and favours from Murdoch and Rebecca could also be considered.

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Ps.

How much do the Hazy one and Manuel donate to the torrid party or the party of their choice and what do they expect for it?

Economic figures, appear better, but delayed by 2 years.

Re-examine them in 3/12s time.

Association with the union is fine. It is the control aspectsvthat are the problem. I donate nothing to any political party and never have.I am not even a member of any party and never have been.

You should form your own.

Perhaps, the Reform Party.

You mean the Retard party surely Fred.

Not much posting today got a stinker of Man Flu.

Even so allthis talk of economic growth hasnt helped the Tories.

The average Joe knows what their game is in Part Time Britain........

electionista ‏@electionista
UK - YouGov/Sun poll:

CON 32%
LAB 40%
LDEM 11%
UKIP 12%

Labour lead increases.

GF.

I think he may have had membership application rejected,

8-)

LOL.

the average joe will only perk up when he sees a bit more money coming into his pocket, the value of his house increasing, and depending on his location, a perception that something is being done to cap immigrants and their benefit rights

my guess too, is that both DC and EM are so uninspiring that joe just won't bother to vote at all and the turnout at the next election will be pathetically close to a paltry 50%

Interesting to see that the Guardian is using a tax shelter company in the Caymen Islands to avoid tax.

The Graun is just following the crowd.

Altho, they are supposed to be above all that sort of thing.

Has somebody fired the starting gun?



Six reasons why the Lib Dems are the real 'nasty party'


By Damian Thompson Politics Last updated: January 21st, 2014

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/damianthompson/100255786/six-reasons-why-the-lib-dems-are-the-real-nasty-party/




Be very afraid

This Lord Rennard business. I don't know why anyone is surprised that so many people emerge from it as bullies, cowards or hypocrites. Here are six reasons why the Liberal Democrats are Britain's real "nasty party".

1. Big egos in a small party. Let's take the example of Chris Huhne, known to be vain and unscrupulous long before he was elected to Parliament. There are plenty of Huhnes in the Tories and Labour. But in the Lib Dems someone with his impressive CV – City entrepreneur, economics editor for a national newspaper – is at a huge advantage. He's a big beast from the moment he appears. And the party – this is true of all small parties – is so overawed by his achievements that it overlooks the fact that he's a slimy, backstabbing megalomaniac. Result: someone whose moral failings are plain for all to see comes within a whisker of being elected party leader.

2. It's a merged party. "Liberal Democrats" is not the new name for Liberals: we're not talking about Marathon turning into Snickers with no change of ingredients. Vince Cable was Labour before joining the SDP and is still Labour at heart. (Another ex-SDP man: the distinguished Mike Hancock, currently in the wilderness.) The tension remains among older members. Liberals see the SDP as opportunists; the SDP see the Liberals as fruitcakes. They're both right.

3. Small parties accommodate conspiracy theorists: If you live on the fringes of politics, as the Lib Dems did until 2010, you make friends with other fringe people and attract fringe causes. Norman Baker, inexplicably now Minister of State at the Home Office, thinks the "murder" of David Kelly was covered up. Jenny Tonge thought we should check out the theory that Israelis harvest organs. She was finally expelled from the party, but my God it took a long time.

4. Liberals fight dirty on the doorstep: Again, a function of the size of the party, whose local base is stronger than its national one. Liberals (and later Lib Dems) didn't have big policies with which to win over local voters, so many of them resorted to neighbourhood tittle-tattle (ask Peter Tatchell). Sometimes – especially in the East End during the 1980s – they quietly adopted racist tactics that were at odds with their national stance. Now they've carried their trademark sneakiness into government.

5. They don't have an ideology. This is partly a function of the merger (see above). Social democracy and the streak of libertarianism in the old Liberals don't mix. Mad Europhilia was the nearest they had to a Great Cause, but even at its height about a third of party members were Eurosceptics. In short, they don't really believe in anything. At least, not anything interesting. Quick quiz: how many Lib Dem policy pledges can you remember from 2010? I'm guessing just one. No Tuition Fees. QED.

6. Clegg is a crap leader. Nice guy, no political convictions worth mentioning, disastrous lack of personal authority over his querulous, paranoid and ruthless members. Chris Huhne was the leader they deserved, and it's cruel trick of fate that we were denied the spectacle of his lies unravelling while he was Deputy Prime Minister.

Sickening,.................

The Fuzz ‏@Fuzz944
“@TheFacts1O1: Meanwhile in Syria, this boy is sleeping between his parents. World do something

Easy to say that gf but what would you like the world or the UK to do specifically ?

50:50 chance his parents were killed by Al Queda supporting militants as the governing idiots.

Not taking any sides Dil, just so sickening for a young child.