goldfinger
- 09 Jun 2005 12:25
Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).
Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.
cheers GF.
Fred1new
- 23 Jan 2014 10:31
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goldfinger
- 23 Jan 2014 10:44
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Hays in denial as usual........
Should see the smirk on my face Hays.....
electionista @electionista 3h
UK - YouGov/Sun poll:
CON 32%
LAB 40%
LDEM 8%
UKIP 12
Haystack
- 23 Jan 2014 10:52
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All the posts recently been in the range of statistical error. It is up to 8 one day and down to 4 the next.
Fred1new
- 23 Jan 2014 11:15
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Good to see that Cameroon is getting ready for another U-turn on Syrian refugees.
UKIPPs fighting on the street with the tory right wing for the right spin.
Especially with the hoards of Romanians and Poles coming back, after their Xmas at home, queuing at the borders.
Hospital service crammed, but the government can't count or tell the time.
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NHS collapsed and contemptible Torrid party is in disarray, falling apart and can't be seen in A+E.
Suggest they try the Mental Health emergency facilities.
doodlebug4
- 23 Jan 2014 11:54
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What mental health emergency facilities?:-)
Haystack
- 23 Jan 2014 11:58
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Don't worry, Fred has just taken advantage of the emergency mental health facilities.
Fred1new
- 23 Jan 2014 12:50
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Hays,
I have a guess that I am more in touch with common reality than you would seem to be from some of your "opinions".
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Watch Wavy Dave's, who appears to be your Messiah, next wobble and U-turn.
He has an interesting behaviour pattern.
Fred1new
- 23 Jan 2014 14:11
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The result of 3 years of mismanagement by the Nasty Party?
NHS waiting time data for elective surgery 'unreliable'
By Nick Triggle
The NAO has urged NHS England to apply greater scrutiny to waiting-time statistics
Are hospitals fiddling the waiting times?
Hips, knees and cataract operations: Postcode search
Staff 'told to lie to patients'
Patients in England cannot rely on information on waiting times for non-emergency operations, such as knee and hip replacements, a watchdog says.
The National Audit Office (NAO) found wrong and inconsistent recording after reviewing 650 cases in seven trusts.
The watchdog said it was unable to discern whether this was deliberate, but overall the practices concealed delays rather than over-recorded waits.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-25845106
MaxK
- 23 Jan 2014 14:22
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£43 million given to Conservatives by members of exclusive Cameron dining club
Members of the 'Leaders Club' who have dined privately with the Prime Minister or Cabinet minsters have donated £43 million to the Conservatives
By Georgia Graham, Political Correspondent
12:56PM GMT 23 Jan 2014
Members of a dining club with private access to David Cameron and other Cabinet ministers have given £43 million to the Conservatives in just two years.
The details were revealed following criticism over Downing Street’s refusal this week to say how many ‘secret’ guests David Cameron has hosted at his grace-and-favour country home, Chequers.
The Leaders Group is made up of donors who each give at least £50,000 to the Conservative party ever year and are rewarded with private dinners, lunches and drinks parties with the Prime Minister and other influential ministers.
Although overall membership to the group has always been secret those that have dined privately with the Prime Minister or senior Cabinet Ministers following the controversy in 2012 when it emerged Mr Cameron was hosting private events at his Downing Street flat.
Minster have always denied that the events are used by donors to influence policy but critics argue that secrecy around private dinners raises suspicions. Other ministers who have attended the Leaders Group events in the past two years include George Osborne, the Chancellor, William Hague, the Foreign Secretary and Theresa May, the Home Secretary.
Look at the numbers: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/conservative/10591950/43-million-given-to-Conservatives-by-members-of-exclusive-Cameron-dining-club.html
Fred1new
- 23 Jan 2014 14:32
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The torrid government appear seem to be a form cabal turning the UK into banana republic or thiefdom for personal gain.
There have been "stinking" periods with various UK governments, but the stench created by this one will be one of the worst and last a long time.
I would like to be around in five years time to see the analysis of this one.
I wonder if it will be called the backhander government.
Haystack
- 23 Jan 2014 15:19
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It is the same with Labour. Don't you think that union leaders have dinner with Labour PMs? And don't forget private donors to Labour.
Fred1new
- 23 Jan 2014 16:19
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Yes.
But, they go in through the front door and then it is with full glare of media attention.
goldfinger
- 23 Jan 2014 16:37
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Yes Fred, the Tories have always been backdoor boys.
cynic
- 23 Jan 2014 17:23
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sticky - an interesting little snippet today .....
i was talking to a chap from leicester who had been a bricky up to 2009 ..... at that point, he said the market just came to a total standstill pretty much overnight, so he was effectively forced out of biz .....
he then joined an engineering company, so i asked how biz was for them now ..... oh very much on the up now, was the response ..... for sure they export their machine parts to india and far east, but assuredly some of it must be domestic too
MaxK
- 23 Jan 2014 17:41
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cynic
- 23 Jan 2014 17:45
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at least my information is not some cartoonist having a laugh, but first hand and from the midlands and from a manufacturing engineering company
MaxK
- 23 Jan 2014 18:11
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You didn't even read it c.
Some bits you might have missed.


Fred1new
- 23 Jan 2014 18:39
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Manuel
P 35784
I think the there are the slight signs of economic germination.
But look at the following and you can see some reason for anxieties
The "depression" could have been dealt with in a different ways, with money spent on the "dole" used to supplement R+D or more infrastructure updates etc.
The aim of some financial "support" of the economy is directed for political reasons into the hand of those who have. ie Housing guarantees for high price housing, Egocentrically to London.
The same cash used in other areas would have produce more stimulus with less risk.
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I won't go on.
I played chess last night with a ex-senior lecturer economics. It was a draw.
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UNITED KINGDOM GDP GROWTH RATE
The Gross Domestic Product (GDP) in the United Kingdom expanded 0.80 percent in the third quarter of 2013 over the previous quarter. GDP Growth Rate in the United Kingdom is reported by the Office for National Statistics. From 1955 until 2013, the United Kingdom GDP Growth Rate averaged 0.6 Percent reaching an all time high
of 5.3 Percent in March of 1973 and a record low of -2.5 Percent in June of 1958.
The United Kingdom is the world’s seventh largest economy. Like in the case of many other developed nations, services is the biggest sector of the economy and accounts for more than 75 percent of total GDP.
The key segments within Services are Distribution, Transport, Hotels and Restaurants (18 percent of total GDP), Government, Health and Education (20 percent); Professional and Support (11 percent); Financial and Insurance (9 percent) and Real Estate (9 percent).
Although the United Kingdom is still one of the biggest manufacturers in the world, production constitutes only 10 percent of the GDP.
Last big component of the GDP is Construction, which accounts for around 7 percent of total output.
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That is a major part of the UK problem,
Maggie was shit scared of the city an the present creep even more dependant on them.
Haystack
- 23 Jan 2014 18:50
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Fred
That silly web site is just stating the obvious. Of course pay is not I proving in relation o prices. Why would it at the moment? The economy is growing at a very good rate,,Wages and employment will catch up. It is going to be a sobering prospect for all the lefties.
Fred1new
- 23 Jan 2014 18:53
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Pardon!
Reality check needed!