Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

What mental health emergency facilities?:-)

Don't worry, Fred has just taken advantage of the emergency mental health facilities.

Hays,

I have a guess that I am more in touch with common reality than you would seem to be from some of your "opinions".


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Watch Wavy Dave's, who appears to be your Messiah, next wobble and U-turn.

He has an interesting behaviour pattern.

The result of 3 years of mismanagement by the Nasty Party?


NHS waiting time data for elective surgery 'unreliable'
By Nick Triggle


The NAO has urged NHS England to apply greater scrutiny to waiting-time statistics

Are hospitals fiddling the waiting times?

Hips, knees and cataract operations: Postcode search
Staff 'told to lie to patients'
Patients in England cannot rely on information on waiting times for non-emergency operations, such as knee and hip replacements, a watchdog says.

The National Audit Office (NAO) found wrong and inconsistent recording after reviewing 650 cases in seven trusts.

The watchdog said it was unable to discern whether this was deliberate, but overall the practices concealed delays rather than over-recorded waits.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-25845106

£43 million given to Conservatives by members of exclusive Cameron dining club

Members of the 'Leaders Club' who have dined privately with the Prime Minister or Cabinet minsters have donated £43 million to the Conservatives






By Georgia Graham, Political Correspondent

12:56PM GMT 23 Jan 2014



Members of a dining club with private access to David Cameron and other Cabinet ministers have given £43 million to the Conservatives in just two years.


The details were revealed following criticism over Downing Street’s refusal this week to say how many ‘secret’ guests David Cameron has hosted at his grace-and-favour country home, Chequers.


The Leaders Group is made up of donors who each give at least £50,000 to the Conservative party ever year and are rewarded with private dinners, lunches and drinks parties with the Prime Minister and other influential ministers.


Although overall membership to the group has always been secret those that have dined privately with the Prime Minister or senior Cabinet Ministers following the controversy in 2012 when it emerged Mr Cameron was hosting private events at his Downing Street flat.


Minster have always denied that the events are used by donors to influence policy but critics argue that secrecy around private dinners raises suspicions. Other ministers who have attended the Leaders Group events in the past two years include George Osborne, the Chancellor, William Hague, the Foreign Secretary and Theresa May, the Home Secretary.



Look at the numbers: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/conservative/10591950/43-million-given-to-Conservatives-by-members-of-exclusive-Cameron-dining-club.html

The torrid government appear seem to be a form cabal turning the UK into banana republic or thiefdom for personal gain.

There have been "stinking" periods with various UK governments, but the stench created by this one will be one of the worst and last a long time.

I would like to be around in five years time to see the analysis of this one.

I wonder if it will be called the backhander government.

It is the same with Labour. Don't you think that union leaders have dinner with Labour PMs? And don't forget private donors to Labour.

Yes.

But, they go in through the front door and then it is with full glare of media attention.

Yes Fred, the Tories have always been backdoor boys.

sticky - an interesting little snippet today .....
i was talking to a chap from leicester who had been a bricky up to 2009 ..... at that point, he said the market just came to a total standstill pretty much overnight, so he was effectively forced out of biz .....
he then joined an engineering company, so i asked how biz was for them now ..... oh very much on the up now, was the response ..... for sure they export their machine parts to india and far east, but assuredly some of it must be domestic too

UK EMPLOYMENT ANALYSIS: NO SIGNS OF ECONOMIC RECOVERY, JUST DESPERATION

By John Ward
January 23, 2014


http://hat4uk.wordpress.com/2014/01/23/uk-employment-analysis-no-signs-of-economic-recovery-just-desperation/

at least my information is not some cartoonist having a laugh, but first hand and from the midlands and from a manufacturing engineering company

You didn't even read it c.


Some bits you might have missed.

Manuel

P 35784

I think the there are the slight signs of economic germination.

But look at the following and you can see some reason for anxieties

The "depression" could have been dealt with in a different ways, with money spent on the "dole" used to supplement R+D or more infrastructure updates etc.

The aim of some financial "support" of the economy is directed for political reasons into the hand of those who have. ie Housing guarantees for high price housing, Egocentrically to London.

The same cash used in other areas would have produce more stimulus with less risk.

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I won't go on.

I played chess last night with a ex-senior lecturer economics. It was a draw.

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UNITED KINGDOM GDP GROWTH RATE

The Gross Domestic Product (GDP) in the United Kingdom expanded 0.80 percent in the third quarter of 2013 over the previous quarter. GDP Growth Rate in the United Kingdom is reported by the Office for National Statistics. From 1955 until 2013, the United Kingdom GDP Growth Rate averaged 0.6 Percent reaching an all time high
of 5.3 Percent in March of 1973 and a record low of -2.5 Percent in June of 1958.

The United Kingdom is the world’s seventh largest economy. Like in the case of many other developed nations, services is the biggest sector of the economy and accounts for more than 75 percent of total GDP.

The key segments within Services are Distribution, Transport, Hotels and Restaurants (18 percent of total GDP), Government, Health and Education (20 percent); Professional and Support (11 percent); Financial and Insurance (9 percent) and Real Estate (9 percent).

Although the United Kingdom is still one of the biggest manufacturers in the world, production constitutes only 10 percent of the GDP.

Last big component of the GDP is Construction, which accounts for around 7 percent of total output.


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That is a major part of the UK problem,

Maggie was shit scared of the city an the present creep even more dependant on them.

Fred
That silly web site is just stating the obvious. Of course pay is not I proving in relation o prices. Why would it at the moment? The economy is growing at a very good rate,,Wages and employment will catch up. It is going to be a sobering prospect for all the lefties.

Pardon!

Reality check needed!

sorry max - thought i was meant to look at the pic only ....however, interesting as your numbers may be, they do not in any way negate the "snippet" i brought to the table just now - and that was first-hand fact "as at today"

cynic 23 Jan 2014 17:23 - 35784 of 35791

sticky - an interesting little snippet today .....
i was talking to a chap from leicester who had been a bricky up to 2009 ..... at that point, he said the market just came to a total standstill pretty much overnight, so he was effectively forced out of biz .....
he then joined an engineering company, so i asked how biz was for them now ..... oh very much on the up now, was the response ..... for sure they export their machine parts to india and far east, but assuredly some of it must be domestic too..............ends

so this bricky a skilled job if hes a proper bricky as taken on a job at an engineering company!!!!!!!!!!!!!

now this just illustrates whats happening in Tory Britain time and time again, workers having to trade down to lower skilled jobs as obviously he hasnt taken on a SKILLED job
as an engineer.

Probably find his take home pay his far short NOW than what he was earning back in 2009.

Its the Quality of these new jobs and their duration ie, part time, fixed contracts etc etc thats under scruitiny.

Its good to see the chap as found work but at WHAT CAREER cost.

And of course its good for his employer hes probably as found a grafter who gets stuck in and is way better than the average BUT is this the way forward for Britain??????? A low cost economy were the HAVES get richer and richer and the HAVE-NOTS get poorer and poorer.

And then theirs the small issue of the young man whos been unemployed for 4 years and never been given a chance.

sticky - you didn't read properly, or chose not to ..... he was forced out of his job as a bricky in 2009 due to the total collapse of the economy; perhaps you could remind me as to who was then at the helm

fortunately for him, he had the nous and drive to find a different direction, and though i do not know what his current role is, i don't suppose it is as the odd-job man, or he wouldn't have been at Quat' Saisons on a cookery class

i'ld hazard a guess that in the longer term, he will do as least as well as he would have done as a bricky, but without the innate uncertainty of the construction industry

so now perhaps you'ld like to re-read and write as a sensible person, which by and large you are, instead of as a contaminated political twerp :-)

on a separate issue, while i have much sympathy with today's youth and the current paucity of employment, there is a valid counter that many of the youth will not take on lower paid jobs, or even just charity work to improve their CV and for their own self-esteem, because they reckon it's not worth the effort when a similar amount might be earned without effort through the benefit system

do i know first-hand of such cases?
indeed i do