Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Angela and Maria Eagle, Chris Bryant, Vernon Coaker, Charlie Falconer still expected to resign.

Labour plotters' goal to force Corbyn to resign by making life difficult as possible - effectively going on strike, no support in PMQs etc

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36633238

Corbyn office 'sabotaged' EU Remain campaign - sources

And documents passed to the BBC suggest Jeremy Corbyn's office sought to delay and water down the Labour Remain campaign. Sources suggest that they are evidence of "deliberate sabotage".
One email from the leader's office suggests that Mr Corbyn's director of strategy and communications, Seumas Milne, was behind Mr Corbyn's reluctance to take a prominent role in Labour's campaign to keep the UK in the EU. One email, discussing one of the leader's speeches, said it was because of the "hand of Seumas. If he can't kill it, he will water it down so much to hope nobody notices it".
A series of messages dating back to December seen by the BBC shows correspondence between the party leader's office, the Labour Remain campaign and Labour HQ, discussing the European campaign. It shows how a sentence talking about immigration was removed on one occasion and how Mr Milne refused to sign off a letter signed by 200 MPs after it had already been approved.
The documents show concern in Labour HQ and the Labour Remain campaign about Mr Corbyn's commitment to the campaign - one email says: "What is going on here?" Another email from Labour Remain sources to the leader's office complains "there is no EU content here - we agreed to have Europe content in it". Sources say they show the leader's office was reluctant to give full support to the EU campaign and how difficult it was to get Mr Corbyn to take a prominent role.

Sounds like the tory party to me.

Ditch the Cameron. It was all his fault!

BS.

The Con party needs a hard mad like Nigel to take over.


Forgot, he already has done!

Lord Falconer, shadow Justice Secretary has gone. Ten down now.

Tom Watson, Corbyn's deputy declines to endorse Corbyn’s leadership.

Bookies offering 2/5 on Cobryn going this year.

they weren't too hot on the referendum result were they!

lol :-)

From the Independent - EU referendum petition: 77,000 fraudulent signatures removed as investigation launches

Bin it, not worth a light. :-))

Apparently, lots of people signing the 'Second Referendum' Petition, aren't even from the UK.

Has it now lost its credibility?

Boris has called Tony Blair a tosser in the past and he is one now for calling for another Referendum. Does anyone think a man with his past carries any respect?

Put a match to it or use it for cheap toilet paper. :-))

not a chance of another referendum ....... what would be the legal precedent for one? ...... that many do not like the result is an irrelevance just as it is at a general election

Referendum petition being investigated for fraud: Channel 5 news.

Karl Turner, the shadow attorney general has said he has resigned

That's one sacked and 11 resigned.

Posted across the road: h/t to palwing.


Cant find it on the website, it's so slow and clunky, but it might be my comp.

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/



A very good article by in the Belfast Telegraph by Ellis O'Hanlon shown below.


Sore losers in Remain were blind to UK's ingrained Euroscepticism

Britain is split right down the middle. Half of us wanted to leave the European Union, and half of us wanted to remain. In the end, those who wanted to get out slightly edged it.

That's been the official interpretation of Thursday's historic referendum vote.

You can chalk it up as yet another thing that the political and media class in the UK have got spectacularly wrong.

Those who loathe the EU in Britain far outnumber those who feel any affection for it.

The percentage who actually voted in favour of independence may "only" have added up to 52%, but there are millions of others among Remain supporters who feel exactly the same way about Europe - they just couldn't bring themselves to take a leap in the dark when push came to shove.

I should know. I'm one of them.

My heart was always for Brexit. The EU is a bloated, complacent, autocratic and anti-democratic institution whose treatment of small peripheral nations in economic trouble has been shameful.

Its arrogant refusal to admit that it needed fixing was only further proof that this vainglorious project was fundamentally unreformable.

Having said that, I'm also risk-averse and innately conservative with a small 'c', not to mention worried about the implications for Northern Ireland.

Project Fear worked on me. With little enthusiasm, I voted to Remain.

The reaction to Thursday's vote has done little to reassure me, however, about the decency of Remain supporters.

Those who voted to leave the EU are being viciously pilloried as stupid, unsophisticated, reactionary, racist. They've even been denounced for being too old. How dare the over-50s have an opinion about the future direction of their own country!

Don't they realise that the under 25s are all passionate pro-Europeans who should automatically get their own way, despite the fact that practically every comfort they enjoy is paid for by the selfsame wrinklies that they're casually disparaging and whose life experience surely ought to count for something and be respected?

Now they've also turned on Prime Minister David Cameron (left) for calling a referendum at all, because it delivered the "wrong" result.

This is exactly what you'd expect from self-satisfied elites who think they know better than everyone else and have a divine right to run our lives. That's why they hate referendums.

On Thursday, the voices of the great and the good had no more weight than anyone else's.

Those with letters after their name, who've done quite nicely out of Europe, thank you very much, were forced to endure the ultimate indignity of realising that they had no more say in the future direction of the country than a welder in the West Midlands, a fisherman in Falmouth or a farmer in Fermanagh.

These masters of the universe still don't get it even now, wringing their hands and wondering how a Leave vote could have happened, when it's blindingly obvious to anyone who bothered to lift the blinkers that Britain has been naturally, deeply Eurosceptic for decades.

It's just that this was the first time ordinary people had the chance to express it.

If you seriously believe that a democratic vote is something to be embarrassed about, then you're part of the problem.

We ended up here because our so-called betters didn't listen. They're still not listening.

Good article. The status quo always had an inate advantage but that wasn't enough.
Exit polls in Spain giving a majority to the left wing Podemos party. Difficult to say what that means but it does blame the EU for the austerity and unemployment in Spain.