bosley
- 20 Feb 2004 09:34
jimmy b
- 08 May 2005 16:39
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Not sure ,i do know that this held up well over the last few weeks when most of my holdings took a knock, so if there is any news im expecting a rise in the sp..JB..
blackbelt
- 08 May 2005 16:45
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Ive closed a number of my 'blue skiers' at the minute wish i'd cash them out about a month ago. Im gonna purchase some more stock this week in SEO depending on how the market is going. I thought they might have ticked up a little on friday after shares rated them a sound investment to go against the grain this summer
bosley
- 08 May 2005 17:59
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bb, i can't seo doing anything next week unless we get an rns or the borson brigade get into action. otherwise i think it's going to be more of the same. frustrating, i know, but there hasn't been any new news since the agreement with advanced energy, apart from confirmation of the rumours that seo will be in america pitching to walmart. seo is a share that is driven by news and when there is none, there's not much we can do, apart from have a chat amongst ourselves.
jimmy b
- 08 May 2005 18:56
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bosley,i wonder if next week will be much the same across all the small caps..JB..
Sharesure
- 08 May 2005 19:43
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This thread is increasingly becoming tiresome. Laser sealing , for those who want to check it out, costs much much more than RF sealing. That is the reason no one is bothering to trial it against the RF process. Ask anyone in packaging and they will confirm this.
bosley
- 08 May 2005 20:04
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jimmy, if i knew what was going to happen next week , i wouldn't be looking forward to going to work so much!!!:) sharesure,can't say i disagree with you.
andysmith
- 08 May 2005 21:29
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Thought there might have been news when saw how many unread posts but its only the irritating twat ii again, havn't read your posts mate as you are talking bollocks. Must be cluckin irritating for you waiting for this to crash cos each time it falls it bounces straight back like a kangaroo on a spacehopper becuase there are too many folk just waiting to snap up cheap shares in SEO.
Key point, Asda's own personnel have posted an RNS re: RF sealing for meat and the countless other possibilities that are emerging for other packaging concepts. Thats from the horses mouth folks, not the horses arse called insiderx2.Also been holding since 4p and adding like Bos and others. Nothing to change my mind that this is still is the best growth stock around right now.
jimmy b
- 08 May 2005 22:34
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I don't hold most of mine long term but this is one i'm tucking away,,i like the postings on here,and im sure if there is anything negetive it will be discussed,,but i say again don't mention this pr.ck or he's here to stay.JB.
EWRobson
- 08 May 2005 23:54
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So II is promoting Packaging Automation. They certainly need promoting as there is no news article for the last 3 months on their site! But hey, what's this, three articles on packtalk and all in the last 10 months! Invited to discussion group with Dept of Environment; a user application story; conversion to handle liquids. lol! rofl! Glad we have some entertainment on this channel!
The other really funny thing was Charles1952. pth knows these things and he is quite clearly the same guy - just look at the phraseology and formatting. he knows nobody takes any serious notice of him so he talks to himself. First step to madness, they say! But we now know more about him - christian name Charles and 53 years old.
Moving on to serious matters. Whither the sp this week? At least evens chance of an RNS on a deal with the first ASDA supplier. The situation appears to be that two of the three ASDA supplier trials have been completed - the question is therefore whether the 12 month exclusivity deal starts from the completion of the third trial or from the first firm order from a supplier. My bet would be on the latter. Mind, I have spent my life being a 'marginal failure': never getting anything absolutely right! For instance, forecast the labour majority as 64 and it came out at 66 - blast those 19 Crawley voters who voted the wrong way!
Eric
insiderinside
- 09 May 2005 05:57
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RF sealing has been around since 1945 see the link below -
http://www.devicelink.com/mddi/archive/99/12/003.html
As you can read from the article at that time CPET could not be RF sealed - which is where SEO have found a way - my concern is over its quality control acceptance capability and has the change from from material spec changes ?
We must not forget that RF sealing has been around for years SEO is using it for the first time for tray lidding. The packing industry appears to be moving on in the clamshell and blister pack arena to UV sealants.
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The Simpl-Seal II PET Clamshells + Card&Blister UV Sealing system is designed to immediately increase your productivity and simplify the entire PET, RPET, PLA or PVC Clamshell sealing process and now also the Card & Blister Sealing process. WHEN COMPARED TO OUTDATED AND EXPENSIVE RF, Sonic or Heat sealing machinery, the technologically advanced and patented* Simpl-Seal II UV system is the most efficient and cost effective sealing method available on the market today.
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- SIMPL-GRIPPER - Unit allows for 100% conveyor access while exerting pinching force directly to mating surfaces of clamshells that may not have been originally designed to work with the Simpl-Seal System
- PRESSURE ROLLER - Applies pressure to top of clamshell or card during Sealing Process
- SIMPL-COATER II - Stand alone State-of-the-Art adhesive coating system applies exact amount of Simpl-Sealant to blisters and packages saving time,eliminating waste and increasing throughput for the contract package line.
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Eliminate heat/RF sealing with DYMAX UV cure adhesives for clamshells and blisters. DYMAX adhesives cure in seconds to form structural bonds to PVC, PET, APET, and RPET. Benefits include reduced tooling and capital costs, higher production rates, and lower set-up costs. Production systems include semi-automated dispense-type units and separate dispense, roll coat and stand-alone curing units.
http://www.dymax.com/products/plastic/packaging.asp
Another point of the post from above is that it appears that to get the best results from RF sealing special films are required that suit RF sealing this would no doubt raise cost.
An APET film needs to have consistent RF sealability characteristics across a broad range of RF sealing equipment when used on RF sealing equipment is this one of the technical difficulties being found in the trials if trying to use RF sealing on standard APET and CPET ?
All pointers to the limited potential nowadays of RF sealing in other areas its a has been in quite a few industries which limits the rampability of posting figures on other industries (some people love to go off on a tangent and state RF sealing is new and going to take over the world of packing) . We should therefore not think RF sealing is new or think that its not supplied by many many companies we should remember that Stanelco is using it as a speciality for tray lidding on CPET microwavable trays so far an into that fray walks Mr Laser sealing Mid April 2005 and a fightback by the traditional heat sealers. UV cure sealants where does that lead us more food for thought on any potential expansion by SEO out of the tray lidding applications with old technology RF sealing.
For more information on UV Cure Sealents and indeed new EB cure sealants have a read good background info
http://www.rohmhaas.com/AdhesivesSealants/pdf/power@work_Winter2002.pdf
bosley
- 09 May 2005 07:12
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eric, i think jimmyb has the right idea. andys , nice to see you're still alive. driver, whaddya want, sympathy???????
morning has broken!
bosley
- 09 May 2005 07:49
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Tony Ruane, Technical Manager, Meal Solutions category at ASDA said:
'This is a first to market for ASDA - real innovation. This could well turn out
to be the biggest thing in packaging for years. The benefits for both the
environment, our customers and suppliers from this technology are far reaching.
The potential for the use of Stanelco's technology grows every time we look at
it. Every visit to both stores and suppliers identifies new areas and ways in
which the technology can be used. We are looking forward to working with
Stanelco.'
it's worth re posting what asda had to say about seo's tehnology. the more times you read it the better it gets!!the increase in posting by the tit and friends smells of panic.
andysmith
- 09 May 2005 08:17
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To me Bos, this is the most important statement on here, not SEO, not SEO followers, not derampers etc etc, its Asda themselves.
bhunt1910
- 09 May 2005 08:30
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Morning all - I see the weekend brought about an amazing anount of posts - barely any of them relevant with some "intersting" (!!) posts from some "neubies"(??).
Dear, dear - what next.
Morning Bos, eric, andy, GF and the rest of the regulars - what a lovely morning it is, clear blue skies - a bit chilly though = lets hope SEO can improve things as the day develops.
Baza
016622
- 09 May 2005 09:44
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Bos, can you post the date the ASDA comment was made?
Thanks in advance and yes that sounds fantastic.
insiderinside
- 09 May 2005 09:59
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Some more information on whats happening in the tray lidding market -
Cyrovac ( http://www.sealedair.com/eu/en/library/casehist/grampian.html ) were/are also developing Laser sealing rumour has it. Why not ? Laser sealing is so flexible with no tooling. Any kind of thermal (RF/Heat) sealing still needs die cutters to trim hence the long delays in changing line products laser seals then the laser trims the edge programmed pack dimensions and such a quick changeover of product type on the line with no tooling to worry about.
Cryovac also did very well at the recent Flexible Packaging Innovation Showcase 2005.
http://www.flexpack.org/ACHIEV/2005_cfe/2005_innovation_showcase.htm
Cryovac also seem to have taken over the French suppliers for chicken packaging with their own new Darfresh sealing for chicken is that Carrefour ?
http://www.foodproductiondaily.com/news/ng.asp?id=58479
All has to go into the consideration melting pot over future prospects we know Walmart already use the ultra green ultrasonic sealing for clamshell packaging and the like with many companies now potentially doing laser tray lidding what will it all mean ? Will Walmart go to UV cure sealants for Clam and Blister ?
Cryovac also appear to have the red meat market sealed up with their patented technology for double seal fresh meat packing.
Sainsburys ? See below link.
http://www.foodproductiondaily.com/news/news-NG.asp?n=52476-meat-range-with
Poverty
- 09 May 2005 11:51
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I think we are getting ready for the next surge upwards! The ASDA confirmation is due imminently and SEO continue to woo the market with their excellent products and world beating ideas.
SEO are clearly (greenseal clearly) one to watch!
Have a nice day
Poverty
- 09 May 2005 12:01
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I am going to buy some more today! Hurrah - Just waiting to see if I can get 19.5 or so. Not that it makes mujch difference! I am happy to top up at any sub 20p price considering where these fabby shares are going!
016622
- 09 May 2005 12:25
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steady poverty....you sound a little too confident...
Bos, do you have a date??