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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

55011 - 03 Mar 2014 16:18 - 37491 of 81564

Amazing how a specific statement (vide the BBC feed at 15.00 this afternoon) quickly gets developed and passed on.

Truly the first casualty of war is the truth.

goldfinger - 03 Mar 2014 16:19 - 37492 of 81564

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Haystack - 03 Mar 2014 16:20 - 37493 of 81564

Yes. I think it is 5:00am like cal time.

55011 - 03 Mar 2014 16:21 - 37494 of 81564

Wonder if any big ordnance really will be discharged or whether it is all just posturing.

55011 - 03 Mar 2014 16:23 - 37495 of 81564

... and just how much Russian gas exported to Europe travels via the Ukraine is worth bearing in mind.


That has been tinkered with before.

goldfinger - 03 Mar 2014 16:24 - 37496 of 81564

Just to give a bit of balance in view of all this War mongering......

Monday, 3 March 2014

Magic Monday

"Dear Sir,

I wanted to let your readers know about Mark Wood.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/disabled-mark-wood-starved-death-3194250

Mark was 44 and suffered from severe mental health problems. Amongst other things, he was diagnosed with aspbergers and OCD (obsessive compulsive disorder)

Last year, Atos Healthcare, the French IT company who carry out Employment & Support Allowance (previously incapacity or "sickness" benefit) judged that Mark was fit to work. They didn't consult his GP who has since said that if he had been consulted he would never have recommended that Mark could work.

His ESA was stopped along with his housing benefit, leaving him just £40 per week to cover all his expenses. Food, shelter, warmth.

Mark died of starvation just 4 months later. When they found him, there was just a banana and a tin of tuna in his home.

It is the UK and the year is 2014. Yet people are starving to death, alone in their homes. They do it discreetly, out of sight, but they die just the same.

If Mark was an isolated case, then maybe, just maybe, we could forgive his tragic loss. Maybe the pain his family feel would have been less crushing.

But he's very far from an isolated case. Stephanie Bottril, Karen Sherlock,
Mark and Helen Mullins, Denis Jones, Jacqueline Harris, David Barr, Elaine Lowe, Elenor Tatton, Linda Wootton......

The list goes on and on now. Every day a different death linked directly to government social security "reforms" yet we, the public, seem determined to look away.

I never thought I'd see the day when I had to warn people, right here in the UK, that often vulnerable sick or disabled people are dying and no-one cares.

In 2011/12, 10,600 people died within just 3 months of being found "fit for work" by the DWP. Since then, they've refused to publish further statistics at all.

When this government speaks of "welfare reforms", I'm fairly sure readers don't assume that they will cause tens of thousands of deaths. I just hope we all wake up soon, before they are joined by thousands more

Very best

SueMarsh"



Haystack - 03 Mar 2014 16:27 - 37497 of 81564

Not just BBC reporting deadline. Sky, Reuters, AP all reporting it.

Haystack - 03 Mar 2014 16:30 - 37498 of 81564

gf

Reading The Mirror comic will destroy brain cells. Too late, I see you are taking the stories seriously.

goldfinger - 03 Mar 2014 16:38 - 37499 of 81564

They are serious dont forget Hays YOUR government lost the WCA debate motion in parliament last week which means an external review will be carried out and more than likely when the real statistics on death are found both IDS and Call Me Dave will lose their jobs.

Believe me its going to happen.

Haystack - 03 Mar 2014 16:38 - 37500 of 81564

Watching CNN last night, there were suggestions that the situation is similar the the appeasement that went on in Munich prior to WWII.

aldwickk - 03 Mar 2014 16:39 - 37501 of 81564

I see we come under the heading Other Europe , is that pie chart produced in Brussels
when France , Italy and Germany and others are named

cynic - 03 Mar 2014 16:39 - 37502 of 81564

asperger's covers a great multitude, and most of us have a degree of same ..... you'll find autism at the further end, and that does not necessarily stop you working - i certainly know one such

ditto ocd shares many similarities to asperger's though it may not be classified in the same spectrum ..... again, most people have this to some degree

goldfinger - 03 Mar 2014 16:45 - 37503 of 81564

Cyners but how do you account for this..........

In 2011/12, 10,600 people died within just 3 months of being found "fit for work" by the DWP. Since then, they've refused to publish further statistics at all.

DWP figures by the way.

goldfinger - 03 Mar 2014 16:47 - 37504 of 81564

"Since then, they've refused to publish further statistics at all"........ends


Beggars belief that this is happening in Britain in the year 2014.

But people are fighting back at last and IDS for sure is on borrowed time.

Shortie - 03 Mar 2014 16:49 - 37505 of 81564

This has to win the prize for the most idiotic statement of the day...!

British Foreign Secretary William Hague says the turmoil in Ukraine is the "biggest crisis" Europe has faced in the 21st Century.

Haystack - 03 Mar 2014 16:52 - 37506 of 81564

CNN
Russia tells Ukrainian forces in Crimea to leave by Tuesday morning or face a "military storm," Russian state-run media reports.

Haystack - 03 Mar 2014 16:53 - 37507 of 81564

gf
I am only beginning to see how gullible you are,

cynic - 03 Mar 2014 16:55 - 37508 of 81564

sticky - being a cynical chap, i might ask if the one had a direct connection to the other ....... the answer is probably not, and certainly not in all cases

however, i would agree from first hand knowledge that the benefits system is an absolute nightmare (put politely) if you are trying to claim legally ..... i could certainly give a couple of specific examples which almost beggar belief, but no point in cluttering up the page

goldfinger - 03 Mar 2014 16:56 - 37509 of 81564

Hays Im suprised you can see me at all given the amount of alcohol you consume daily.

cynic - 03 Mar 2014 16:56 - 37510 of 81564

shortie - in 21st century, the statement is probably true
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