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Referendum : to be in Europe or not to be ?, that is the question ! (REF)     

required field - 03 Feb 2016 10:00

Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

grannyboy - 28 Jun 2016 07:57 - 3763 of 12628

The scum channel BBC are still in pro-eu brainwashing mode...

The sooner that house of anti English/British vipers is shut down or
privatised the better...

Don't the population realise that they're paying for the privilege of
being brainwashed...

Fred1new - 28 Jun 2016 08:07 - 3764 of 12628

That certainly is the view of a moderate.

Especially the night after being knocked over by a snowball.

Fred1new - 28 Jun 2016 08:11 - 3765 of 12628



The Ghost will arise.

-=-===

iturama - 28 Jun 2016 08:15 - 3766 of 12628

The FTSE is blue today. The doom mongers will not be pleased. It's not supposed to be this way.

VICTIM - 28 Jun 2016 08:34 - 3767 of 12628

Osbourne says a Remain supporter could lead Cons , please no stitch up , this is the sort of thing we didn't want surely .

MaxK - 28 Jun 2016 08:41 - 3768 of 12628

Ozzy can say what he wants, no ones listening.

Fred1new - 28 Jun 2016 09:21 - 3769 of 12628

I am!

8-)

required field - 28 Jun 2016 09:35 - 3770 of 12628

I'm pleased about the result....but Cameron should not have brought this referendum in without realising fully the consequences....now it's done he's wondering how on earth or why this chaos is happening......strange but there are a few similarities with the England football team......

grannyboy - 28 Jun 2016 09:37 - 3771 of 12628

The establishment are already closing ranks, including those who
backed LEAVE.

The stitch up is in the planning stage..

ExecLine - 28 Jun 2016 09:40 - 3772 of 12628

June 23
Front page of Germany's Bild:

"Dear Britain, if you stay in the EU...
We will acknowledge the Wembley goal.
We won't make any more jokes about Prince Charles' ears.
We won't wear sun cream on the beach in solidarity with your sunburn.
We will go without our goalkeeper at the next penalty shootout to make it more exciting.
We will introduce tea time, with buckets on the beaches of Majorca.
We will willingly provide the villain in every Bond film.
We'll start "ticking" like you and put our clocks back by an hour.
We'll put through an EU directive which forbids foam on our beer.
We'll reserve sun loungers around the pool for you with our towels.
Jogi Löw will guard your crown jewels.
We will come to your Queen's 100th birthday."

How very nice of them. Pity it's now too late. Jogi Löw looks like a wimp, anyhow.

MaxK - 28 Jun 2016 09:45 - 3773 of 12628

European SUPERSTATE to be unveiled: EU nations 'to be morphed into one' post-Brexit

EUROPEAN political chiefs are to take advantage of Brexit by unveiling their long-held plan to morph the continent’s countries into one GIANT SUPERSTATE, it has emerged yesterday.



By Nick Gutteridge

PUBLISHED: 02:01, Tue, Jun 28, 2016 | UPDATED: 07:45, Tue, Jun 28, 2016



The foreign ministers of France and Germany are due to reveal a blueprint to effectively do away with individual member states in what is being described as an “ultimatum”.

Under the radical proposals EU countries will lose the right to have their own army, criminal law, taxation system or central bank, with all those powers being transferred to Brussels.

Controversially member states would also lose what few controls they have left over their own borders, including the procedure for admitting and relocating refugees.

The plot has sparked fury and panic in Poland - a traditional ally of Britain in the fight against federalism - after being leaked to Polish news channel TVP


The public broadcaster reports that the bombshell proposal will be presented to a meeting of the Visegrad group of countries - made up of Poland, the Czech Republic, Hungary and Slovakia - by German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier later today.

Excerpts of the nine-page report were published today as the leaders of Germany, France and Italy met in Berlin for Brexit crisis talks.

In the preamble to the text the two ministers write: "Our countries share a common destiny and a common set of values ??that give rise to an even closer union between our citizens. We will therefore strive for a political union in Europe and invite the next Europeans to participate in this venture."



More: http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/683739/EU-referendum-German-French-European-superstate-Brexit

VICTIM - 28 Jun 2016 09:48 - 3774 of 12628

That's horrendous Maxk . just think we would have been subjected to this .

MaxK - 28 Jun 2016 09:53 - 3775 of 12628

It is the express V, but it's not hard to see.

They have been setting up the trappings of a superstate for a long time, all without the consent of the people.

iturama - 28 Jun 2016 09:57 - 3776 of 12628

Sounds like alarmism to me. Who are the next Europeans? None left that I can make out. I assume they are talking about themselves and inviting the tiny other states in the EU to join.... something. I assume also that they have not consulted their own citizens on the grand scheme. Maybe a good idea to do away with national elections and referendums at the same time. Very inconvenient for such visionaries.
Anyhow, it has nowt to do with us anymore. Let them get on with it.

VICTIM - 28 Jun 2016 10:03 - 3777 of 12628

If this has semblance of truth there will be mass demonstrations in these countries .

MaxK - 28 Jun 2016 10:06 - 3778 of 12628

MaxK - 28 Jun 2016 10:08 - 3779 of 12628

Others have picked up on this story, I think it has legs.

Timing is spot on, after the uk referendum: Who needs plebs to govern?



http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-27/eu-officials-unveil-ultimatum-blueprint-final-solution-european-super-state

iturama - 28 Jun 2016 10:17 - 3780 of 12628

The key words are "according to the Daily Express".

Dil - 28 Jun 2016 10:32 - 3781 of 12628

Lol did anyone just watch Farage speaking in the EU parliament ?

Dil - 28 Jun 2016 10:33 - 3782 of 12628

Le Penn is now ripping into them.
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