Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

European SUPERSTATE to be unveiled: EU nations 'to be morphed into one' post-Brexit

EUROPEAN political chiefs are to take advantage of Brexit by unveiling their long-held plan to morph the continent’s countries into one GIANT SUPERSTATE, it has emerged yesterday.



By Nick Gutteridge

PUBLISHED: 02:01, Tue, Jun 28, 2016 | UPDATED: 07:45, Tue, Jun 28, 2016



The foreign ministers of France and Germany are due to reveal a blueprint to effectively do away with individual member states in what is being described as an “ultimatum”.

Under the radical proposals EU countries will lose the right to have their own army, criminal law, taxation system or central bank, with all those powers being transferred to Brussels.

Controversially member states would also lose what few controls they have left over their own borders, including the procedure for admitting and relocating refugees.

The plot has sparked fury and panic in Poland - a traditional ally of Britain in the fight against federalism - after being leaked to Polish news channel TVP


The public broadcaster reports that the bombshell proposal will be presented to a meeting of the Visegrad group of countries - made up of Poland, the Czech Republic, Hungary and Slovakia - by German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier later today.

Excerpts of the nine-page report were published today as the leaders of Germany, France and Italy met in Berlin for Brexit crisis talks.

In the preamble to the text the two ministers write: "Our countries share a common destiny and a common set of values ??that give rise to an even closer union between our citizens. We will therefore strive for a political union in Europe and invite the next Europeans to participate in this venture."



More: http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/683739/EU-referendum-German-French-European-superstate-Brexit

That's horrendous Maxk . just think we would have been subjected to this .

It is the express V, but it's not hard to see.

They have been setting up the trappings of a superstate for a long time, all without the consent of the people.

Sounds like alarmism to me. Who are the next Europeans? None left that I can make out. I assume they are talking about themselves and inviting the tiny other states in the EU to join.... something. I assume also that they have not consulted their own citizens on the grand scheme. Maybe a good idea to do away with national elections and referendums at the same time. Very inconvenient for such visionaries.
Anyhow, it has nowt to do with us anymore. Let them get on with it.

If this has semblance of truth there will be mass demonstrations in these countries .

Others have picked up on this story, I think it has legs.

Timing is spot on, after the uk referendum: Who needs plebs to govern?



http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-27/eu-officials-unveil-ultimatum-blueprint-final-solution-european-super-state

The key words are "according to the Daily Express".

Lol did anyone just watch Farage speaking in the EU parliament ?

Le Penn is now ripping into them.

If the EU Parliament wants us to invoke article 50 now, it can't be in our interest. Let them wait until we are good and ready. As for Junkcer, he is not a robot, he is an irrelevant drunk.

I caught a bit of Farage letting rip.

He cheered them up no end by calling them in effect nonsense peeps who have never had a real job.

Dave's got a new job

I think he would be crap as a car salesman Max ,if that Mini was 8k i bet i could drive away in it for 4 .All you have to do with Dave is tell him NO ! job done .

Just heard England have started a petition to have the match against Iceland replayed as they didn't like the result.

Farage was jeered by the European Parliament.

Not much point with that one ,they'd probably lose again .

Osborne is not going to stand for PM.

And Theresa is getting close to Boris's odds.

Wow Haystack ,you don't say ,what a surprise ! Farage not flavour of the month at the EU.

Yes i'm for signing it, even if we've got to vote 5-10-15-20..A 1000 times
until we beat them..The law of averages says we should succeed eventually,
I don't care if its on the 999th time of trying..

We will overcome, eventually?