Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Rees Moggy, steely intellect...doesent deal in bullshit, clear and concise.


it would make a pleasent change from the usual puff merchants.

Absolutely, and a respected MP, not many of them about.
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h/t to cass across the road;



The text of Farage's EU parliament speech:



"Isn’t it funny? When I came here 17 years ago and I said that I wanted to lead a campaign go get Britain out of the European Union, you all laughed at me. Well, I have to say, you’re not laughing now, are you?

And the reason you’re so upset, the reason you’re so angry, has been perfectly clear from all the angry exchanges this morning. You, as a political project, are in denial. You are in denial that your currency is failing.

Just look at the Mediterranean. As a policy to impose poverty and the rest of the Mediterranean, you’ve done very well. And you are in denial over Mrs Merkel’s call last year for as many people as possible to cross the Mediterranean into the European Union. [It] has led to massive divisions within countries and between countries.

But the biggest problem you’ve got, and the main reason the United Kingdom voted the way that it did, is that you have, by stealth, by deception, without ever telling the truth to the British or the rest of the people’s of Europe, you have imposed upon them a political union.

And when the people in 2005 in the Netherlands and France voted against the political union, when they rejected the constitution, you simply ignored them and brought the Lisbon treaty in through the back door."

Mr Farage also warned that the UK would not be the last country to leave the EU.

"What happened last Thursday was a remarkable result. It was a seismic result, not just for British politics, but for European politics but perhaps even for global politics too, because what the little people did, what the ordinary people did, what the people who have been oppressed over the last few years and who have seen their living standards go down [did], they rejected the multinationals, they rejected the merchant banks, they rejected big politics. And they said, actually, we want our country back. We want our fishing waters back. We want our borders back. And we want to be an independent, self-governing, normal nation and that is what we have done and that is what must happen.

And in doing so we offer a beacon of hope to democrats across the rest of the European continent. I will make one prediction this morning; the United Kingdom will not be the last member state to leave the European Union."

Good old Nigel , l love Farage ,it's only because of him that we are out of the EU make no mistake about that .

From the Spectator

Tosh McDonald, the president of ASLEF, speaks. He hated Margaret Thatcher so much, he says, he would get up an hour early to enjoy an hour more of hatred, which may be the single most pointless piece of political activism I have ever heard a man boast of

The man should be knighted

and the beeb and the other vermin in the media exterminated (so to speak)

Theresa May would be a good PM. She has something of the aura of Thatcher about her.

Labour officials receive legal advice on whether Jeremy Corbyn could stand for leadership re-election

If Corbyn loses the upcoming vote of no confidence, he may have to find 50 MP or MEPs prepared to back his continued leadership

Under one reading of Labour’s ambiguously worded rule book, Mr Corbyn might not be able to compete in a leadership election, because he might be unable to get his name on the ballot paper.

The party’s general secretary, Iain McNicol, has privately sought legal advice on how the rule should be interpreted if – as seems increasingly likely – Mr Corbyn is challenged and insists on fighting to keep his job.

Rule 4.2.ii of the Labour party rule book says that when an incumbent party leader faces a challenge “any nomination must be supported by 20 per cent of the Commons members of the PLP. Nominations not attaining this threshold shall be null and void.”

The Parliamentary Labour Party (PLP) is made up of 230 MPs and 20 MEPs, which means that a challenger will have to collect at least 50 signatures on his or her nomination papers.

But does the phrase "any nomination" mean apply to the incumbent leader as well as to any challenger? If it does, Mr Corbyn would have to find 50 MP or MEPs prepared to back his continued leadership – a number he would find it almost impossible to reach.

In 2015, when the rules were different because the former leader, Ed Miliband, had quit, Mr Corbyn struggled to get the 35 names he needed to get his name on the ballot paper. He achieved that only because a number of MPs – such as Labour’s former deputy leader, Margaret Beckett and the late Jo Cox – signed his nomination papers purely to give him a chance to participate in the contest, while making it clear that they had no intention of voting for him and did not expect him to win. Four of the 36 who nominated Mr Corbyn are no longer in the Commons.

Total now resigned 54

Theresa May , She has something of the aura of Thatcher about her.

That's got to be the best joke iv'e heard all year .

osbornes not resigned yet..Must be hanging on in the hope of being
appointed May's bag boy and ego stroker...

The deputy Speaker of the Commons got a group of about 80 Tory MPs together to watch the England - Iceland match to cheer them up. Doesn't look like it lifted their spirits much.

Osborne won't resign. PMs can resign during crises but not Chancellors. It would be crazy for him to resign.

I just thought earlier how would you honestly feel now IF the remain had won , watching all those airy fairy actors and celebrities with their falseness .

Theresa May has caught up in betting.

Both 13/8

Others have fallen back

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Theresa May would be a good PM. She has something of the aura of Thatcher about her.


? The dead in the ground look.

She could have Moggie and Ozzy as pallbearers.

Labour activists were planning to join the Conservative party to vote against Boris as Conservatives did to vote for Corbyn. Sorry to disappoint them but you have to be a member for three months before you can vote.

Vicky all those luvvies, who without doubt sneer at the average Brit whilst happy to take their money have had their greedy snouts bloodied, and they do not like it one bit.
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May 31% and Boris 24% among Tory voters and May ahead in wider public.

I think May is secretly glad of the out vote , as she brought up the point about the new countries Albania , Serbia etc links to Mafia type make up , personally I think this is a big point as we would have discovered in time .