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Referendum : to be in Europe or not to be ?, that is the question ! (REF)     

required field - 03 Feb 2016 10:00

Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Haystack - 28 Jun 2016 14:31 - 3818 of 12628

Theresa May would be a good PM. She has something of the aura of Thatcher about her.

Haystack - 28 Jun 2016 14:34 - 3819 of 12628

Labour officials receive legal advice on whether Jeremy Corbyn could stand for leadership re-election

If Corbyn loses the upcoming vote of no confidence, he may have to find 50 MP or MEPs prepared to back his continued leadership

Under one reading of Labour’s ambiguously worded rule book, Mr Corbyn might not be able to compete in a leadership election, because he might be unable to get his name on the ballot paper.

The party’s general secretary, Iain McNicol, has privately sought legal advice on how the rule should be interpreted if – as seems increasingly likely – Mr Corbyn is challenged and insists on fighting to keep his job.

Rule 4.2.ii of the Labour party rule book says that when an incumbent party leader faces a challenge “any nomination must be supported by 20 per cent of the Commons members of the PLP. Nominations not attaining this threshold shall be null and void.”

The Parliamentary Labour Party (PLP) is made up of 230 MPs and 20 MEPs, which means that a challenger will have to collect at least 50 signatures on his or her nomination papers.

But does the phrase "any nomination" mean apply to the incumbent leader as well as to any challenger? If it does, Mr Corbyn would have to find 50 MP or MEPs prepared to back his continued leadership – a number he would find it almost impossible to reach.

In 2015, when the rules were different because the former leader, Ed Miliband, had quit, Mr Corbyn struggled to get the 35 names he needed to get his name on the ballot paper. He achieved that only because a number of MPs – such as Labour’s former deputy leader, Margaret Beckett and the late Jo Cox – signed his nomination papers purely to give him a chance to participate in the contest, while making it clear that they had no intention of voting for him and did not expect him to win. Four of the 36 who nominated Mr Corbyn are no longer in the Commons.

Haystack - 28 Jun 2016 14:34 - 3820 of 12628

Total now resigned 54

jimmy b - 28 Jun 2016 14:43 - 3821 of 12628

Theresa May , She has something of the aura of Thatcher about her.

That's got to be the best joke iv'e heard all year .

grannyboy - 28 Jun 2016 14:48 - 3822 of 12628

osbornes not resigned yet..Must be hanging on in the hope of being
appointed May's bag boy and ego stroker...

Haystack - 28 Jun 2016 14:51 - 3823 of 12628

The deputy Speaker of the Commons got a group of about 80 Tory MPs together to watch the England - Iceland match to cheer them up. Doesn't look like it lifted their spirits much.

Haystack - 28 Jun 2016 14:53 - 3824 of 12628

Osborne won't resign. PMs can resign during crises but not Chancellors. It would be crazy for him to resign.

VICTIM - 28 Jun 2016 14:56 - 3825 of 12628

I just thought earlier how would you honestly feel now IF the remain had won , watching all those airy fairy actors and celebrities with their falseness .

Haystack - 28 Jun 2016 15:02 - 3826 of 12628

Theresa May has caught up in betting.

Both 13/8

Others have fallen back

Fred1new - 28 Jun 2016 15:06 - 3827 of 12628

Haystack Send an email to Haystack View Haystack's profile - 28 Jun 2016 14:31 - 3818 of 3825

Theresa May would be a good PM. She has something of the aura of Thatcher about her.



? The dead in the ground look.

She could have Moggie and Ozzy as pallbearers.

Haystack - 28 Jun 2016 15:07 - 3828 of 12628

Labour activists were planning to join the Conservative party to vote against Boris as Conservatives did to vote for Corbyn. Sorry to disappoint them but you have to be a member for three months before you can vote.

2517GEORGE - 28 Jun 2016 15:07 - 3829 of 12628

Vicky all those luvvies, who without doubt sneer at the average Brit whilst happy to take their money have had their greedy snouts bloodied, and they do not like it one bit.
2517

Haystack - 28 Jun 2016 15:23 - 3830 of 12628

May 31% and Boris 24% among Tory voters and May ahead in wider public.

VICTIM - 28 Jun 2016 15:32 - 3831 of 12628

I think May is secretly glad of the out vote , as she brought up the point about the new countries Albania , Serbia etc links to Mafia type make up , personally I think this is a big point as we would have discovered in time .

cynic - 28 Jun 2016 15:37 - 3832 of 12628

try romania (and italy of course!)

VICTIM - 28 Jun 2016 15:44 - 3833 of 12628

I thought those maybe obvious cynic , anyway when is this leader vote and does whoever come second get to be deputy ( please no hourly updates Hays ).

Haystack - 28 Jun 2016 15:46 - 3834 of 12628

No. David Davis came second last time. The Conservative PM gets to choose their deputy. Labour vote separately for the deputy which is why Watson got the job despite Corbyn not wanting him.

VICTIM - 28 Jun 2016 15:51 - 3835 of 12628

So we could have two remainers at the helm .

Haystack - 28 Jun 2016 15:56 - 3836 of 12628

If May wins then certainly.

Haystack - 28 Jun 2016 15:59 - 3837 of 12628

You can follow it all here

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