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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Haystack - 21 Mar 2014 09:09 - 38587 of 81564

Update - Labour lead at 5
by YouGov in Politics
Fri March 21, 2014 6 a.m. GMT

Latest YouGov / The Sun results 20th March - Con 34%, Lab 39%, LD 10%, UKIP 10%;

Haystack - 21 Mar 2014 09:18 - 38588 of 81564

Of course the Labour party loves the poor and unemployed.

Why else would they have created so many of them?

Fred1new - 21 Mar 2014 09:18 - 38589 of 81564

I realised last night why Porky enthused about the new pound.

It was because he had heard of coin clipping of gold "coins" and was collecting all the offcuts of the present £1 piece debasing its value.

Somebody tell him they are no longer made of gold.

goldfinger - 21 Mar 2014 09:21 - 38590 of 81564

Yep thats the problem labour lead at a constant 5% to 6% all the time.

Thats going to be a lot harder to overturn than some think getting nearer to the election.

Gone are the days of big leads for either of the 2 major partys, both are fighting for the same middle ground and even tho its Bullingdon Boys V Brown Owl boys neither will veer away from that sacred middle ground and back to the extremes of yester year.

MaxK - 21 Mar 2014 09:21 - 38591 of 81564

Are we heading for a new big bang?





House prices really are exploding! Tiny Second World War gun tower with no running water, toilet or parking is sold for £200,000

Ten foot wide property, part of wartime sea defences, only has outside tap
Interest generated by building's location in upmarket Shaldon, Devon
Estate agents say the seaside building has beautiful views of the coast
Buyers attracted by potential to turn it into a one-bedroom holiday home

By Richard Spillett

PUBLISHED: 12:31, 20 March 2014 | UPDATED: 16:29, 20 March 2014








More tripe here: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2585149/Second-World-War-gun-tower-no-running-water-toilet-parking-sold-200-000.html

goldfinger - 21 Mar 2014 09:24 - 38592 of 81564

Hays post...........sheer ignorance. if thats the way the Tories are now thinking along with Shapps gaff, labour will be in power for many years to come.

Haystack - 21 Mar 2014 09:27 - 38593 of 81564

From 'Nightmare! He refuses to obey orders': Leaked emails reveal what Ed Miliband REALLY thinks of Ed Balls

Emails sent last week reveal the Miliband's team think Balls is a 'nightmare'
Show Labour leader is sick of shadow chancellor's refusal to obey orders
Sent on Wednesday in response to Bank of England Governor Mark Carney’s announcement that economic recovery had taken hold
Pair have long denied reports of personal and political tensions

goldfinger - 21 Mar 2014 09:28 - 38594 of 81564

Max one bed roomed holiday home.........what for a midget. Doesnt look big enough to swing a cat round in.

goldfinger - 21 Mar 2014 09:33 - 38595 of 81564

Hays seems to forget theirs people following Gove in the Tory party ready with a dagger behind 'call me daves back'.

Far worse than any riff between the 2 Eds............

Perhaphs its his effective exclusion here from this thread thats now getting to him.

Haystack - 21 Mar 2014 09:33 - 38596 of 81564

Ed Miliband's Budget speech was 'repetitive' admits Labour

Labour has conceded that Ed Miliband’s response to the Budget was “repetitive” after it emerged that large parts of his speech were lifted from previous yearsEyebrows were raised about why Ed Balls, the shadow Chancellor, did not appear to pass any notes to Mr Miliband to help with his response during the Budget.

Later Mr Balls told journalists that Mr Miliband had had to discard pages of his speech because of announcements that never came.

Labour had expected measures to lift the tax burden on lower and middle income families after reading and believing speculation by journalists on Twitter.

Insiders spoke of “panic” in the office of Mr Miliband in the hours leading up to his speech as advisers worried about how to respond to the Chancellor’s speech.

Separately, new research on Wednesday, published after he had spoken, showed a fall in Mr Miliband’s standing among voters.

A poll by Edelman on Wednesday evening – hours after Mr Miliband sat down – found that trust in Labour has fallen by a quarter to 31 per cent since January.

The poll found that only 23 per cent now trust the Labour leader, a drop of 10 per cent since January.

One in five people said the Budget had reduced their trust in his ability to manage the economy.

goldfinger - 21 Mar 2014 09:35 - 38597 of 81564

ahhhhhhh but look deeper Hays........Emails sent last week reveal the Miliband's team

petty anyway when the tory party are on the brink of imploding.

Haystack - 21 Mar 2014 09:36 - 38598 of 81564

Twitter blunder that left Ed lost for words: Miliband's response flopped because he based it on predictions from social networking site

Shadow Chancellor Ed Balls revealed his leader had to tear up large sections of his speech when Twitter rumours proved false
He said Mr Miliband hastily inserted jibes about Michael Gove's attack on Etonian influence in Downing Street
Mr Miliband was widely criticised for spending 16 minutes reading out political attack lines while barely mentioning the content of the Budget

Ed Miliband’s Budget response flopped yesterday because he had based it on misleading predictions on Twitter, according to Ed Balls.

goldfinger - 21 Mar 2014 09:37 - 38599 of 81564

Hays says he as me and Fred filtered............................WHO IS HE TRYING TO KID.

Haystack - 21 Mar 2014 09:43 - 38600 of 81564

EU leaders have signed an agreement on closer relations with Ukraine, in a show of support following Russia's annexation of Crimea.

Ukraine's interim PM Arseniy Yatsenyuk and the EU signed the deal in Brussels.
Pro-Moscow President Viktor Yanukovych's abandonment of the deal had led to deadly protests, his removal and Russia taking over Crimea.
On Friday, Russia's upper house unanimously approved the treaty on Crimea joining the Russian Federation.
The EU Association Agreement is designed to give Ukraine's interim leadership economic and political support.

goldfinger - 21 Mar 2014 09:54 - 38601 of 81564

Now the truth on Millibands budget reply and not Hays fantasy...........

Apparently, Osborne's team didn't send an embargoed version of the speech to Labour an hour before the Budget- as they're supposed to. Which looked pretty much like a deliberate attempt to sabotage the Labour leader's speech.

The press were all informed of this but only the Mirror and Guardian reported the matter.

SAME OLD TORIES......

Fred1new - 21 Mar 2014 09:57 - 38602 of 81564

I think the party apparatchik Hazy One has been to party head quarters to get Chaff's latest mantras.

Same old schoolboy rants from Old Cons club of the party, who know they are are in the last throes of a dead in the water government.

The posing of Wavy Dave on Crimea reminds me of that famous tory PM Neville Chamberlain with a bit of toilet paper in his hand and claiming himself successful.

Keep on seeing a punt on the Thames with a motley crew of old etonians and camp followers like Haze singing row, row the boat ashore to the chorus of "We are sinking!"

What a mob!

THE SELF ADMITTING NASTY PARTY has proved itself.

MaxK - 21 Mar 2014 10:06 - 38603 of 81564



Student fees policy likely to cost more than the system it replaced

The proportion of unpaid loans is approaching a critical level as write-offs are on track to pass the gains from tripling of fees



Shiv Malik


The Guardian, Friday 21 March 2014


The proportion of graduates failing to pay back student loans is increasing at such a rate that the Treasury is approaching the point at which it will get zero financial reward from the government's policy of tripling tuition fees to £9,000 a year.

New official forecasts suggest the write-off costs have reached 45% of the £10bn in student loans made each year, all but nullifying any savings to the public purse made following the introduction of the new fee system.

The universities minister, David Willetts, speaking in response to a parliamentary question from the shadow education minister, Liam Byrne, confirmed that the write-off figure – the resource accounting and budgeting (RAB) charge – is rapidly approaching the 48.6% mark. This is the threshold at which experts calculate that the government will lose more money than it would have saved by keeping the old £3,000 tuition fee system.

The coalition's decision to introduce higher fees shortly after it formed led to rioting on the streets and forced a dramatic decline in the Liberal Democrats' poll ratings, from which the party has never fully recovered.

Lower pay for young adults, an over-supply of those with degrees and the worsening economic outlook have all contributed to the revised civil service forecasts which conclude that far fewer graduates will earn enough to pay back their loans over their working lives. Four months ago Willetts notified parliament that the rate had risen to 40% from 35%. In 2010 the estimate was 28%.



More: http://www.theguardian.com/education/2014/mar/21/student-fees-policy-costing-more

Haystack - 21 Mar 2014 10:16 - 38604 of 81564

As can be seen from the Times front page the first Budget polling by YouGov finds strong support from voters for the measures in Wednesday’s statement.

Full details from the polling are not available yet but the paper reports that The Chancellor’s dramatic announcement in Wednesday’s Budget is supported by 66 per cent in the YouGov survey published today in The Sun. The poll also shows strong backing for his other measures to support savers hit by low interest rates”

ExecLine - 21 Mar 2014 10:20 - 38605 of 81564

When reference was made by Osborne concerning the 800th Anniversary Celebrations next year to do with the signing of King John's Magna Carta, his 'disloyal brother' jokey comment, obviously directed towards Ed Milliband, caused quite a few laughs and sniggers.

Historically, Barons from 10 Charter Towns met in August 1213 at St Albans Abbey with the clergy to discuss their grievances against 'bad brother' King John, whom we all remember from, say 'The adventures of Robin Hood', had been disloyal to his brother, King Richard I, the Crusader.

That historic meeting eventually led to the articles that became Magna Carta, sealed at Runnymede, another Charter Town, in 1215.

Fred1new - 21 Mar 2014 10:21 - 38606 of 81564

Hazy One,

Is that you in Drag?

You scrub up better than expected!
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