Fred1new
- 06 Jan 2009 19:21
Will this increase or decrease the likelihood of terrorist actions in America, Europe and the rest of the world?
If you were a member of a family murdered in this conflict, would you be seeking revenge?
Should Tzipi Livni and Ehud Olmert, be tried for war crimes if or when this conflict comes to an end?
What will the price of oil be in 4 weeks time?
Haystack
- 23 Dec 2010 13:53
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From the BBC
A senior Israeli army officer has told the BBC that as long as Hamas remains in control of the Gaza Strip, another war is "only a question of time".
Forget the fact that Hamas is the democratically elected government of Gaza.
In The Land of the B
- 23 Dec 2010 14:09
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Ya Wohl Uberfuhrer Hay parrot
Und that nice Herr Hitler was elected democratically (actually very similarly to Hamas).
Because Hamas is voted into power doesn't preclude them preaching the destruction of another country and another people and attacking them. No, that concept is beyond you and your sort.
In The Land of the B
- 23 Dec 2010 14:12
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And let's not mention Hamas slaughtering their fellow Palestinian Fatah members in Gaza.
aldwickk
- 23 Dec 2010 14:22
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Why was it a slaughter ? because Fatah lost , it was a fight between two opposing Palestinian army's
Haystack
- 23 Dec 2010 14:59
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Hamas won the elections in 2006 and Fatah commanders refused to take orders from the government. The Palestinian Authority, which was allied to Fatah, started assassinating and kidnapping Hamas officials. At the end of 2006, PA forces fired on a Hamas rally.
A sort of civil war started and stopped a few times with a few truces in between. In the end Fatah were stronger in the West Bank with the help of PA forces and Hamas were stronger in Gaza and each took control of their own areas. The root cause of most of this conflict was the PA supporting Fatah with the help of Israel and the US. Without their intervention the whole region would be governed by Hamas.
Hamas is still the choice of the average Palestinian. When the current peace process breaks up, as it will do soon, there will be more conflict if the reconciliation process between Fatah and Hamas does not succeed. They have been having direct talks in Damascus for a couple of months now. In any election in the West Bank or Gaza Hamas would win hands down, which is why the PA delayed elections which were due in June this year.
Hamas are far better organised and more disciplined than Fatah. Hamas now have better weapons including large numbers of Russian made laser-guided missiles which can penetrate a tanks armour. One was fired at an Israeli tank on 6 December and penetrated the tank.
In The Land of the B
- 23 Dec 2010 15:05
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I bet you found that orgasmic
Haystack
- 23 Dec 2010 18:54
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Just realistic. You can't expect only one side to be armed in a conflict. Israel just gets its own way by force of arms. That is a very short term strategy. The agression that Israel show strengthens Hamas and the will of the Palestinians.
Haystack
- 24 Dec 2010 17:39
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Israeli O/occupation Forces troops assaulted a group of Spanish tourists on Thursday afternoon as they tried to enter the southern West Bank city of Bethlehem through its northern entrance to participate in the Christmas festivities.
Local sources said that IOF troops manning the roadblock at the northern entrance of the city near Rahils dome assaulted the group with truncheons injuring a number of them.
The group was surprised at the treatment meted to them and said that they had a taste of what it was like for Palestinians crossing roadblocks.
Haystack
- 24 Dec 2010 17:53
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12069482
The UN relief agency UNRWA has condemned Israel's demolition of homes in East Jerusalem, up 45% this year.
It said 396 buildings were razed in 2010, compared with 275 last year, in occupied East Jerusalem and other West Bank areas under Israeli control.
As a result, 561 Palestinians - including 280 children - were displaced, it said
"I call on the Israeli authorities to cease demolitions and evictions in occupied areas which are in contravention of Israel's obligations under international law," UNRWA's West Bank Field Director, Barbara Shenstone, said in a statement.
Ms Shenstone cited the case of the nine-member Subouh family, whose home in the Ras al-Ammoud district of East Jerusalem was destroyed on 21 December.
The family has been living on their property in two tents after the Jerusalem municipality gave them 24 hours to demolish their home, she said.
The family destroyed the house themselves at a cost of 60,000 shekels ($17,000; 11,000), rather than pay the municipality to do so, which costs twice as much, she added.
Out of the 250,000 Palestinians living in East Jerusalem, the UN says, 60,000 are at risk of having their homes demolished by the Israeli authorities.
cynic
- 26 Dec 2010 15:39
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3874 - unfortunately, the true aims of hamas and the will of the general palestinian are far from aligned
Haystack
- 26 Dec 2010 16:57
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I think they are very much aligned. That's not true with Hezbollah though. Hamas want a political solution, but it is not acceptable to Israel.
Hamas leaders have indicated they'd accept a truce with Israel and the establishment of a Palestinian state on part of Palestine if Israel withdraws to its pre-1967 borders and Palestinian voters approve the move in a referendum.
Haystack
- 26 Dec 2010 16:58
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Israel has been on alert since early Saturday as it anticipates that a convoy of ships which departed from Syria Sunday could change course from its destination in the port of El Arish in Egypt and head straight for the Gaza Strip in an attempt to break Israel's naval blockade.
Reports received by Tel Aviv imply that Turkish activists who were aboard the Mavi Marmara ship and arrested in wake of the clashes with Israeli forces have joined the naval vessel that will leave Lattakia today, said Israeli daily Yediot Ahranot.
Israeli authorities have been closely monitoring preparations for the ships which are set to sail from the Syrian port of Lattakia to the Gaza Strip or to El Arish, Israeli politicians said.
Activists from India, Malaysia, Indonesia, and Iran are expected to take part on the convoy, the sources added, alleging that the activists are believed to have been equipped with means of combat and inflammatory material in Tehran, where official welcoming ceremonies were held for them.
cynic
- 26 Dec 2010 17:03
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more peaceful protesters then who will no doubt be held up as heroes and martyrs if/when they get a good slapping ..... bloody well serves them right, just as it does violent/destructive protesters in london who get whacked by a policeman's truncheon
Haystack
- 26 Dec 2010 17:05
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Israel's Deputy Prime Minister Silvan Shalom during a press conference Sunday hinted that Israeli military may spark new aggression against the Gaza Strip.
Shalom said Israel would like to change the course of the current situation in the strip.
Israeli minister Yuval Steinitz has said Israel will sooner or later launch a new offensive on Gaza with its sights on toppling the governing Hamas group.
Haystack
- 26 Dec 2010 17:06
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cynic
- 26 Dec 2010 17:13
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he liked it so much he posted it twice
Fred1new
- 27 Dec 2010 10:01
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To me, the protesters are drawing attention to what Israel,and Zionist followers and some of the press wish to hide.
From past actions of similar groups of protesters.they would seem to be non-violent, but this provokes primitive advocated violent response.
Perhaps, violence is the only actions which can temporarily sustain Israel's present in-humanitarian government. Eventually the abusive actions will fail as it has failed in other Fascist regimes.
The Fascists call "Germans" the "Master Race". The actions of the Israeli governments suggest that belief has now passed to some Israelis.
At least the "passive" Israelis won't be able to say "we didn't know what was going on".
In The Land of the B
- 27 Dec 2010 12:12
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OMG, the raging ranting freddie no brains and hay parrot are so full of hatred they can't even restrain themselves for a few minutes over the season of goodwill with their one sided anti-semitic diatribes.
I can just see them eating their Christmas lunches spewing out venom.
What sad, pathetic creatures.
Haystack
- 27 Dec 2010 16:10
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Master race?
This is the previous Chief Rabbii of Israel. He is one of leaders of the Shas party and is part of the coalition governemnt. It is the third largest party. He is very influencial amongst orthodox Israelis.
Israeli Sephardic leader Rabbi Ovadia Yosef in his weekly Saturday night sermon said that non-Jews exist to serve Jews.
"Goyim were born only to serve us. Without that, they have no place in the world; only to serve the People of Israel," he said during a public discussion of what kind of work non-Jews are allowed to perform on Shabbat.
"Why are gentiles needed? They will work, they will plow, they will reap. We will sit like an effendi and eat," he said to some laughter.
Yosef, the spiritual leader of the Shas Party and the former chief Sephardi rabbi of Israel, also said that the lives of non-Jews are protected in order to prevent financial loss to Jews.
"With gentiles, it will be like any person: They need to die, but God will give them longevity. Why? Imagine that one's donkey would die, they'd lose their money. This is his servant. That's why he gets a long life, to work well for this Jew," said the rabbi, who recently turned 90.
One million Arabs are not worth a Jewish fingernail.
According to Jewish scriptures, only Jews are considered human and the rest of humanity (Gentile) and animals are created to serve Jews.
cynic
- 27 Dec 2010 16:26
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According to Jewish scriptures .... where precisely?