Will this increase or decrease the likelihood of terrorist actions in America, Europe and the rest of the world?

If you were a member of a family murdered in this conflict, would you be seeking revenge?

Should Tzipi Livni and Ehud Olmert, be tried for war crimes if or when this conflict comes to an end?

What will the price of oil be in 4 weeks time?

Post 3912 has no relevance to the problem. The Balfour Declaration was addressed to the Zionist Federation. This is an organisation that started about 1896 or so. It is still the real problem. I have researched the Blfour Declaration sveveral times before. you should look at what led up to it. It was repayment to the Zionists for several things, some to do with encouraging Russia to stay in the war and partly for pursuading the US come into the war. Many ordinary Israelis are not happy at all with their country's behaviour and want to move back to pre 1967 borders.

you post is so full of inaccuracies they are even worth enumerating one by one .... try these few simple questions -

for how long have the jews been living in this particular area? ... just a few hundred years or a lot longer?

does saudi accept israel, if not overtly then tacitly?
what about jordan?
does egypt accept israel?
what other countries other than iraq and iran openly deny israel's existence and its right to do so? ..... syria? ..... lebanon?

and if "only a few countries" accept israel's right to exist, perhaps you could name them, other than the few above .... i confess i was under the impression, perhaps wrongly, that every other country in the world accepted israel as a legitimate entity

and the north american indians - how long did they live on their land before they were turfed out? ..... or is 1876/1918 too far back in history to be of relevance? .... you certainly stated as much only a couple of posts back

Many ordinary Israelis are not happy at all with their country's behaviour ... and nor are a great many other people in this world, myself included

Cynic, I think you have represented your own mindset and that of many of the present Israeli administration.

I think it is a miserable view and unlikely to sustain Israel in the long term.

The same type of view of the future was held by an Afrikaner government and in spite of its violence and contravention of common rules of humanity and decency by that governing group eventually removed.

Unfortunately, due to individuals who seem to share your values the chances of bloody conflict before a decent solutions to the ME is more and more likely.

History, matters, because the greater and longer the "abuses", the greater the "retribution" will be.

and just what do you believe my mindset is?
why do you believe my mindset is attuned to the current israeli administration?

do i hear you polemicising (wonder if that word exists?) beneath your post? ... i rather think so

No such word, until you coined it.

Interesting, to me, is that one of the much chanted "mantras" for Israel existing is that, it is "the promised land".

But that is based on history, mythology, or lunacy.

Make your own choice.

and your answers to my questions?

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slightly to my surprise, "polemicising" really does exist, even if the yanks insist on a "z" instead of the correct "s"

I feel that as you are such a clever and knowledgeable chap,you can work on those questions yourself.

Of course, I am sorry to say, you will probably disagree with yourself.

Good night.

i do indeed know my own mind, which curiously enough is at almost total variance with what you like to imagine it is

Saudi does not recognise Iasrael and has a boycott of their goods and services. It promised to stop the boycott to gain entry to the World trade Organisation, but never stopped it.
Jordan does have diplomatic ration with Israel since a peace treaty in 1994.
Egypt does recognise Israel. The rest of the Arab League don't recognise Israel.

There are 19 UN member states that do not recognize Israel as a state.
Israel has no diplomatic relations with 36 UN member states, 20 of them members of the 22-member Arab League.

116 states recognise the State of Palestine and 153 have diplomatic relations with Palestine.

It is bizzare to use the mistreatment of American Indians to legitimise Israel. It would be a strange defence to a crime to say that because someone else did something similar and got away with it, it meant that you should be found innocent.

It would indeed be very strange to cite legal precedent as a basis for law.

Oh, wait a sec ..... Isn't that how case law works?

I'm beginning to think of the parrot and freddie no brains as being mechanical and rather simply designed. Whatever the imput, the return message generated bears no resemblance to the imput, a bit like those early computer programmes.
For example:
Q. Why do we celebrate Christmas?
A. It is an Israeli plot to divert attention whilst they kill innocents.

no - that's easter!

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Cynic,

My imagination has been able of taking into consideration quite bizarre possibilities.

Your "thinking" might just be within its range.

"My imagination has been able of taking into consideration quite bizarre possibilities"

That's been evident for a very long time LOL

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Thank you sir.
There isn't much to smile about here, sadly, though I do laugh at some of the posts by the two unwitting and witless comedians.
Your post is, I'm sorry to say, unrealistic however laudable.
You are clearly a decent person, one of precious few here, and I respect your sentiments.
The wording of the opening post mitigated against genuine discussion and guaranteed animosity and hostility.
Debate is impossible when outright prejudice and hatred and irrationality is manifest in the posts of fahel, fred and hay.
You cannot discuss with the likes of Goebbels, Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot etc.

Let's hope that the Israeli government stops settlement expansion and that is reciprocated by moves on the Palestinian side. Let's also hope that 2011 sees the establishment of a Palestinian state living side by side in peace with Israel.
However, I fear this coming year will bring war on an even more destructive scale with Iranian nuclear development and their supply of ever more sophisticated weaponry to Hizbollah and Hamas.
I would expect and hope Israel will take action to stop Iran from developing and deploying nuclear devices and the means of their delivery. It is a threat to Israel's very existence and they must strike pre-emptively.
I do not want to see anyone, Jew or Arab or Iranian suffer, but I'm afraid, very much afraid, a terrible war will inevitably happen.
Some dupes here will be thrilled.

Let's hope that the Israeli government stops settlement expansion and that is reciprocated by moves on the Palestinian side. .... couldn't agree more, especially with the first part ..... israel's continued aggressive expansion is intentionally highly provocative and immediately torpedoes any moves towards peace in the region .... of course, america could, if its gov't had the balls, stop all sorts of massive aid that is poured into israel, without harming israel's ability to defend itself .... that might well concentrate a few minds and at least lend real teeth to the inane political claptrap

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