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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

aldwickk - 08 Apr 2014 14:10 - 39360 of 81564

goldie

I have been looking at some of those video's on investing on the Moneyweek site , fellow named Ed Browser explaining spread bet's , haven't seen many of them yet most you can see on you tube.

Seeing Nick Clegg and the Blair babes and all the rest of the Blair clones is like watching sign languish and i find myself just watching their hands , Cleggy also trys to make himself one of the people by allways remembering names of members of the audiance like on QT, last week " Were's Sally i can't see you , there you are"

Fred1new - 08 Apr 2014 14:55 - 39361 of 81564

I agree with littlejohn.

It shows Cameron and crew for what they are and the public who had little respect for them have even less now.

But it is because it percolates "down" through society into "if they can get away with it, so can and should I".

It stinks.

The death throws of a government not fit to rule a Banana Republic.

Why don't they retire to the Cayman Isles with their puppeteers?

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But it would be interesting to see Faupage's books, before he gets his feet on the UK gravy train!

aldwickk - 08 Apr 2014 15:45 - 39362 of 81564

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGWI7mjmnNk

I must have missed this.

goldfinger - 08 Apr 2014 16:03 - 39363 of 81564

Alders said.....

"Moneyweek site , fellow named Ed Browser"....ends

yep hes good that bloke also good with the charts aswel on tramlines. Plenty of examples on Utube.

WOW what a bad day on the market and yesterday I thought Id had a good one and got away scot free, sadly not today, worst day for me in about 7 years.

Cant take your eye of the market.

aldwickk - 08 Apr 2014 16:46 - 39364 of 81564

goldie

Some days its best not to trade [ no new postions ]. Maybe a bit of juggling around the end of tax year. Got a business in the Philippines and the tax year ends on 15th April, new tax forms with the option of delaring 40% of profit or just submit itemised profits, also you have to pay a sales tax of 3 % every month on total sales

Fred1new - 08 Apr 2014 16:46 - 39365 of 81564

I wish I had taken my eyes off the market.

Not the best of days, but flogged some in profit and extended stop losses.

Haystack - 08 Apr 2014 17:07 - 39366 of 81564

Today the IMF said that the UK will be the fastest growing of all the G7 countries. Their estimate is 2.9% for this year.

cynic - 08 Apr 2014 17:20 - 39367 of 81564

at least thank goodness i took the profit in my C+M Index holding yesterday when it was there ..... it subsequently disappeared rapidly and indeed much worse; in fact, bought back in late this afternoon so keeping buttocks clenched

goldfinger - 08 Apr 2014 17:26 - 39368 of 81564

interesting alders........Philippines business,what is it a Cat House.........wink.... kidding.

Sales tax 3% every month on total sales........wonder how that racks up against our tax system. Bet it works out far cheaper.

Yep not been buying new stocks been hedging and getting rid of a few top heavy winners, that said I was caught out at the open and didnt close fast enough.

When I place charts on the chart thread they are just ideas thrown up by my system. If I buy them I put a note on the thread that I have done so as quickly as possible sometimes before i have bought.

Was a deadly start to the market with it opening slightly up.

Think I was conned by analysts on CNBC last night saying everything was oversold and a bounce would be on today.

Turned out right now, how long can it last though with the talk of Ruskys maybe going into the ukraine again.

goldfinger - 08 Apr 2014 17:32 - 39369 of 81564

Hays the reason we are the fastest growing company in the G7 is because we have lagged behind the others for the last 3 years.

Anyway the market and the economy never go step and step together, the market is a leading indicator usualy 9 months in front of the economy.

At this point its pricing in bad news, but hoping its only temporary.

Earnings season starts in US tonight, should give some direction as to where markets are going.

goldfinger - 08 Apr 2014 17:37 - 39370 of 81564

Cameron takes heart as polls show just 4 people want Maria Miller to go
08
Tuesday
Apr 2014
Posted by Tom Pride

The PM David Cameron has brushed off claims that culture secretary Maria Miller should resign after he cited polls showing just 4 people out of 5 want her to go.

In an interview yesterday, Mr Cameron strongly reiterated his support for his embattled culture secretary:

“I’ve looked closely at the polls and they clearly show that only 4 people want her to resign. Admittedly another poll showed 8 out of 10 people wanted her to go but that’s still only 12 people altogether so it’s not very many people at all, is it?“

Osborne – 20 million people want Miller to stay

The prime minister was strongly supported in his backing of the culture secretary by the government’s expert number-cruncher chancellor George Osborne who pointed out that recent polls indicated as many as 20 million people wanted Ms Miller to remain in her post out of a possible 100 million people.

Ms Miller was also supported by the Secretary of State for Work and Pensions Mr Iain Duncan Smith who argued that in his opinion he couldn’t really give a flying f*ck about facts.

Fred1new - 08 Apr 2014 17:52 - 39371 of 81564

GF<

If you carry on like that you will have Hazy One believing his own interpretation of the economic figures.


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Sorry, he already does.

He has had them confirmed by an E-mail from party HQ.!

MaxK - 08 Apr 2014 17:55 - 39372 of 81564

LOL !

ExecLine - 08 Apr 2014 18:17 - 39373 of 81564

Watch Peaches Geldoff and Katie Hopkins debating 'attachment parenting':



My conclusion?

Beautiful, sensitive, 'good mothering attitudes', sensible Peaches Geldoff :-)
Horrid, nasty, arrogant, bitchy, Katie Hopkins :-(

And the world is now a slightly worse place for Peaches' passing.

Form your own opinion.

MaxK - 08 Apr 2014 18:38 - 39374 of 81564

EU court of justice overturns law that would enable 'snoopers' charter'


Home Office says it is studying decision which could mean European governments will have to redraft laws over data collection from ISPs and phone companies



Charles Arthur and agencies


theguardian.com, Tuesday 8 April 2014 14.43 BST


The European court of justice has declared the data retention directive illegal, torpedoing UK government schemes for the so-called "snooper's charter" of wide-ranging collection of phone and internet data.

In a judgment delivered on Tuesday, the ECJ, Europe's highest court, declared that the directive is "invalid" because it "interferes in a particularly serious manner with the fundamental rights to respect for private life and to the protection of personal data."

The decision, following requests from the Irish and Austrian courts, is a blow to Theresa May's plans to push through a data retention scheme which would collect and store data from UK citizens' internet and phone use for up to 12 months for later examination.

Any criminal cases which rested on acquisition of data through the directive could also be called into question, because the court decided that "the declaration of invalidity takes effect from the date on which the directive entered into force" – that is, 2006.



More; http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/apr/08/eu-court-overturns-law-snoopers-charter-data-phones-isps

Haystack - 08 Apr 2014 19:47 - 39375 of 81564

They will still collect the data. They don't need the cooperation of the phone companies or ISPs. There are huge benefits to having the data collect that has security implications for all of us. They can collect all of my data for as long as they like.

MaxK - 08 Apr 2014 20:30 - 39376 of 81564

That's not true, they need the cooperation of all isp's.


But what is the point if you cant use said info in a court of law?

Haystack - 08 Apr 2014 20:46 - 39377 of 81564

GCHQ is quite capable of monitoring all traffic wherever it is. The ISP traffic goes through the phone network or through cable. Anything external from the ISP such as searches or web site visits goes through the main networks off the ISP's network. Legally they may need the cooperation of ISPs but not in practice.

Intelligence is not about what is provable in court, it is about gathering chatter and connection. Network intercepts are the basis of most domestic intelligence.

MaxK - 08 Apr 2014 21:46 - 39378 of 81564

Whats the point if you cannot convict anyone?

And you use the word "Intelligence" as if there is actually some behind it.



This diagram may help with your thought processes.


Haystack - 08 Apr 2014 21:59 - 39379 of 81564

You can convict people. The intelligence gained from intercepts gives connections and often specific information. That information rarely needs to be used in court. It is the trigger for surveillance, monitoring and further investigation. It is the evidence gathered later that is used in court. Collecting data is valuable because when say a suspected terrorist pops up on the radar, the security services see what is known and who are his contacts, associates and what internet activity has there been including emails etc. It is at that stage that the data collected over the years, but not used, comes into its own.

You can expect that GCHQ tracks and keeps every email sent on all platforms and every phone call in terms of who called who and for how long. The actual calls would generate too much data, so that would be kept to just the actual calls of people on lists.
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