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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

goldfinger - 11 Apr 2014 08:27 - 39497 of 81564

Max, think you need to knock on Boris Js door and ask him.

Fred1new - 11 Apr 2014 08:42 - 39498 of 81564

MAX.

It is because the streets are paved with gold.

(Fool's gold.)

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The attraction of London is the hope of a job and if an immigrant without contacts the only named town they know.

Also it is only 70 odd miles to Dover etc..

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Another problem is that government institutions and employment is are situated in London, although some of the "civil service" has been distributed elsewhere.

The primary attraction was some years ago London weighting and the search by the young and affluent for the "glamour" of London.

But probably London will implode, especially if the is another economic "crash".

Happy days.

Fred1new - 11 Apr 2014 08:42 - 39499 of 81564

MAX.

It is because the streets are paved with gold.

(Fool's gold.)

---

The attraction of London is the hope of a job and if an immigrant without contacts the only named town they know.

Also it is only 70 odd miles to Dover etc..

-----------------

Another problem is that government institutions and employment is are situated in London, although some of the "civil service" has been distributed elsewhere.

The primary attraction was some years ago London weighting and the search by the young and affluent for the "glamour" of London.

But probably London will implode, especially if the is another economic "crash".

Happy days.

Fred1new - 11 Apr 2014 08:42 - 39500 of 81564

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MaxK - 11 Apr 2014 09:07 - 39501 of 81564

Des Res at sheperds bush.

absolute shithole, heaving with people.

Still, this little property is much sought after.

Good value if you ignore the size, rates £1k, service charge (lol) £4k




Sold @ £275k


http://www.foxtons.co.uk/search?property_id=872212&search_form=map&search_type=SS&submit_type=search

Fred1new - 11 Apr 2014 09:13 - 39502 of 81564

Fred1new - 11 Apr 2014 09:16 - 39503 of 81564

MaxK - 11 Apr 2014 09:18 - 39504 of 81564

Indeed Fred, it's going to go pop!

MaxK - 11 Apr 2014 09:54 - 39505 of 81564

ExecLine - 11 Apr 2014 11:13 - 39506 of 81564

Four women have had new vaginas grown in the laboratory and implanted by doctors in the US.

A tissue sample and a biodegradable scaffold were used to grow vaginas in the right size and shape for each woman as well as being a tissue match.

They all reported normal levels of "desire, arousal, lubrication, orgasm, satisfaction" and painless intercourse.

So that's nice then.

More at: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-26885335

Shortie - 11 Apr 2014 12:02 - 39507 of 81564

Is this the start of the 'designer vagina' and the next thing for women to get.... I F**cking hope so!!

Fred1new - 11 Apr 2014 12:28 - 39508 of 81564

Balerboy,

Yes.

I have an old American Allegro with which I tend to use less than previous and generally stick to France in Spring and Summer.

Good relaxed fun!

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Where do you wander?

jimmy b - 11 Apr 2014 12:29 - 39509 of 81564

I dont know shortie could be good :)

cynic - 11 Apr 2014 12:31 - 39510 of 81564

fwiw, our annual cycling trip will be around moulins (a little north of vichy) .... looks to have plenty to see and some nice varied cycling

goldfinger - 11 Apr 2014 16:06 - 39511 of 81564

‘Social cleansing’ of London is well under way – BBC documentary
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Friday
Apr 2014
Posted by Mike Sivier in Benefits, Children, Conservative Party, Cost of living, council tax, Disability, Employment


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Cartoon by Martin Shovel.

Leading Conservatives must be delighted with the success of their benefit cap in getting single mothers and people with large families out of London – as depicted in the BBC Panorama special, Don’t Cap My Benefits, yesterday evening. (Thursday)

The change means that nobody in the UK is allowed to receive more than £26,000 in benefits per year. The government has claimed this is the same as the average family income, but readers of Vox Political will know that this is a flimsy lie and average family income is in fact more than £5,000 per year higher, at £31K+. The reason benefits weren’t pegged at that level is that far fewer people would be affected by it. Make no mistake – this measure was enacted to shift people from the capital.

The film shows the effects of the change on a number of families in Brent, one of London’s worst-hit boroughs, during a period of just six months. Some of them were forced to move away from their lifelong homes to other cities, with one person being threatened with deportation to Manchester. Even people with jobs were forced to go, by council workers whose attitude bordered on the offensively hostile.

Partway through, Vox Political received this comment: “I am watching Panorama, about the benefit cap. It is heart-breaking, mothers are being split up from small children, a single mother who is volunteering at a children’s centre – a good tenant, according to her landlord – is evicted, she has gone from a house to a B&B and the council woman said, ”At least you’re not on the street”. What hope is there?”

Very little, it seems.

The strongest message the documentary gave was that the benefit cap targets minorities and drives them out of London to areas, most commonly in the Midlands or the North, where people are already suffering similar social deprivation. Perhaps the Tories who dreamed up this idea believe the axiom that ‘Misery loves company’.

Of the families or individuals featured in the film, only one was of British ethnic origin – and she was painted as a troublemaker by her landlord. Some were people who had immigrated into the UK (many years ago – so let’s not have any anti-immigration propaganda levelled at them); some were black. All had children – including some who had many more than the average (there were seven in one family). Some were single mothers. Some were in work, but were told that the amount they were earning could not keep them housed in London and they had to go. Some said they were in work but were doubted by housing officers who forced them out anyway (only to discover later that they were telling the truth, and move them back into Brent, possibly at great expense to the taxpayer).

Perhaps we were supposed to look down on these individuals. Were we supposed to believe they had brought these troubles on themselves because they had too many children without considering the cost, or because they had split up from the fathers of their children, or because their jobs paid too little or their rent was too high?

That’s not what this documentary showed at all.

It showed the intentionally vicious effects of a government policy specifically designed to inflict suffering, in order to remove these unwanted social dregs (as Cabinet ministers no doubt see them) and make London more available as a playground for the rich. It is a policy that goes back (as many do) to Thatcherism.

Thatcherism relied on a massive increase in unemployment, the lowering of wages and the increase of housing prices to undermine the self-confidence of working-class communities – and succeeded on a massive scale. But these were the economics of “planned misery”, in the phrase of Rodolfo Walsh, according to The Impact of Thatcherism on Health and Well-Being in Britain, a new report – strongly recommended.

The article states: “As the relative value of benefits fell, and as wage rates for increasingly insecure and feminised, unskilled work were held down, the poorest were becoming poorer and increasingly ‘socially excluded’, blamed, and stigmatised for policy outcomes that the government had in fact fully anticipated.”

It continues: “All of this generated – and was designed to generate – sharply increased inequalities of income and wealth across Britain and a dramatic increase in poverty… Thatcher’s governments wilfully engineered an economic catastrophe across large parts of Britain and sowed the seeds… of a subsequent collapse – which ironically has provided the highly spurious legitimation for a new generation of ‘uber-Thatcherites’ in the current Conservative-Liberal Democrat coalition government to go where Thatcher herself had hesitated to tread – a complete dismantling of the welfare state.”

In other words, this government’s answer to poverty is to remove the safety net – and that is what we saw in the Panorama film.

The answer to the problems it depicted isn’t to ship poor people off to the deprived North! The answer is a cap on rents, so they don’t become so high that people can’t pay them. It’s a living wage, to ensure that working people don’t need to claim state benefits – as someone else recently said, how can any industry consider itself ‘private’ if its employees need funding from the state to survive?

Otherwise, as a commenter on the BBC’s Question Time said, a little later in the evening, there will be nobody left in London to provide services such as education, for all the rich kids the Tories and Tory Democrats are no doubt already inviting in.

Right?

What do you think?

Fred1new - 11 Apr 2014 16:22 - 39512 of 81564

What do I think.

I think this government is stacking up problems for the future.

The problem with fragmenting society and making it obviously into "them" and "us" groupings, is that the "them" may organise themselves and act as a group.

The "underclass" may resort to their own strengths, which may be criminal and physical.

And as they have been set an example by "bankers", business leaders and MPs breaking the rules, laws and regulations and then being defended, or protected by the PM and government, it is difficult to feel that they should be condemned for their actions.

Social anarchy.


However, I think a welfare state should be to support the weak, or vulnerable not to encourage a dependancy.

Another thing, is that I think one should work to live, not live to work.

At the moment this economy seems like one group digging holes in the road and another group filling them in. Working hard utilising resources and achieving nothing useful.

Fred1new - 11 Apr 2014 16:24 - 39513 of 81564

PS.

I think this period in the Tory party's history will be seen as a shameful one.

cynic - 11 Apr 2014 16:36 - 39514 of 81564

set an example by MPs breaking the rules ...... you forgot to add from all sides of the house
but other than that, and as i have written before, it worries me greatly that the great majority of people will feel so disillusioned with politics in general, that they just won't bother to turn out to vote ..... then the nutters will gain disproportionate representation to the detriment of the many

goldfinger - 11 Apr 2014 16:51 - 39515 of 81564

I agree with both of you guys on your posts above.

Well thought out.

God forbid if UKIP got an hold in this country. And yep I like it as a protest vote, and Im just hoping most others do aswel...........especialy at the next general election......WINK.

goldfinger - 11 Apr 2014 16:55 - 39516 of 81564

Hays Hays Hays Hays.............

the MARIA effect now working......a lagging indicator dont forget and Davy Gravy is now being looked upon as WEAK........

electionista ‏@electionista 9hour ago
UK - YouGov/Sun poll:

CON 32%
LAB 38%
LDEM 8%
UKIP 14

6 point lead restored to Labour and more importantly 38% of the vote that would get them over the line with a majority.

Lib Dems getting hammered.
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