Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

a 40 plus overall majority ...... they wish!
i'ld still bet another hung parliament is strong favorite

Manuel.

It depends on which side of the fence you sit.

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Difficult area to "administer".

But expecting somebody on "standby" and not paying them and preventing them working for anybody else is "equivalent to bonded labour".

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If I was retained then I expected a fee for being so!

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But there is a stench around zero hour contracts as being employed at the moment and reflects the reigning tory political leadership at the moment and relates back to the 1830-1930s attitudes to others.

Perhaps, after Eton you would consider nothing wrong with bringing back the old segregated workhouses.

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Perhaps, IDS has dreamt up his policies from the quote:

"
The government, terrified of encouraging 'idlers' (lazy people), made sure that people feared the workhouse and would do anything to keep out of it.
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You are right about the self employed rules c. I'm not sure if the is a % fig, but you need more than one customer...not hard to get around if the peeps were not tied to one employer.


re: the courier thingy.

I'm damned if I know how they can do it. £0.70/80 per parcel wont pay for a big van (£20k plus) and it's running costs.

But there's no shortage of takers.

do stop being an ass the WHOLE time fred!

for sure courier drivers don't get any standby fee, and if they're not around when a job does happen to pop up, they'll quickly get forced out altogether ....

and yes, as already stated, i too am very uncomfortable that zero hour employees are forbidden to work elsewhere too, though whether that is a customary clause or not, i have no idea

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max - because very often they are intrinsically uneducated (screwed up school) and are either not easily employable or there are no other options around

many of the courier companies are also franchised, so the owner or traffic controller has the drivers by the balls and will often favour or legislate against ...... another favourite trick is to make "clerical errors" when working out pay

Manuel,

As usual, you are seeing the argument from the employer's point of view not the employee's.

You would have made a good low grade out of touch union official in the 50s and 60s.

Surprised your not voting for Nigel, a man of your own ilk!

depends which bit of my post you're looking at! :-)

I suspect you are right c.

Looking at this blog, it's hard to see why anyone would take up parcel delivery for a living (willingly)

£0.40 a drop before exes?


http://www.codforum.org.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=10130

it's not so much the amount per drop or whatever, but the way they actually treat the drivers .... you don't know the half of it

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i know about Hermes - they're a typical lousy employer for all sorts of reasons

I suspect I don't c, so why not enlighten us?

Cos the drop price is absurd, what else can they visit on the hapless drivers?

if i remember correctly
hermes pay very low prices for their routes
demand that packages are dropped off within a very short time frame
are quite likely to take a route away from a driver pretty much on a whim

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another of these courier companies keeps taking on more and more drivers, though apparently they have insufficient work to keep their current drivers busy

the idea is probably to try to get drivers to accept ever lower rates

Hays Hays Hays, another poll JUST OUT.

Get ready to cream yourself...............

electionista ‏@electionista 30s
UK - Populus poll:

CON 35%
LAB 35%
LDEM 9%
UKIP 13%

Rekon its a rougue poll, due to Easter break.

But you can never charge ME of hiding or supressing the results/truth. I say it as it says.

Pity same cant be said of Davy, Giddeon and more so IDS.

hey sticky, that 40 seat majority for labour must be a racing certainty now :-)

By the way im sitting on some POTENTIAL mind blowing political/ humane gravy that will rock the established core to the ground if it comes into being and I think the odds are very much stacked in my favour. 21 days to the outcome and counting.

THIS COULD BE MASSIVE.

Cyners these Bank holiday polls often throw up falseys just like Cheryl Coles tits.

Thought id give Hays a sexual lift LOL LOL.

No one will care about the FOI case to be ruled on in 21 days time.

oh well, here's one for a chuckle that's just popped up on the net ......

UKIP has defended a senior party official who placed an advert in a local paper saying women should stay at home and "cash-strapped Moslems" should have multiple wives.
David Challice, an activist in Exeter, also hit out at the "lunacy of multiculturalism" and described Greeks as "vile".

If any party was heading down the Fascist route it is UKIP. Funny how NF has just the right initials. Nearly all the similar parties in Europe have those initials such as Nuovo Fronteria in Italy.

EU's court could next week rule in favour of taxation without representation in Europe


By Mats Persson Economics Last updated: April 25th, 2014



The EU’s court, the ECJ, is on Wednesday expected to deliver a key ruling on whether it’s legal for a group of EU countries – including Germany and France – to pursue a financial transaction tax (FTT) which also has an impact on the countries not participating, including the UK. The case is big.

Taxes on financial transactions usually falter – look at Sweden in the 1980s or Italy and France now. Even if you think that "banks should pay for the crisis", which is a perfectly legitimate position, a transaction tax is a terrible way to go about it, since transactions move elsewhere or costs are passed on. In a desperate attempt at avoiding this, the European Commission has effectively opted for taxing the entire universe. Any equity, bond or derivative transaction involving a party in the FTT-zone and one outside will be taxed. So all transactions of this type between, say, Deutsche Bank and Barclays will be taxed with the revenue likely going to the German government. Yet, London no longer has any say on the actual proposal since it is being pursued under a quirk in the EU treaties known as "enhanced cooperation" – allowing a sub-set of countries to press ahead with more integration if an agreement involving all EU countries isn’t possible.



http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/finance/matspersson/100027121/eus-court-could-next-week-rule-in-favour-of-taxation-without-representation-in-europe/