The 2005 general election is nearly upon us. Which way will you vote, and you reasons why. Here is a brief list of the potential contestants, please add your own.


More tax!
Less tax!
Dont know!
Death to all infidels!
Who gives a shit?

The great pretender.

Can you trust Dracula?, I dont think so. Im going for the dummy Blair.

GF

Trust & Politician!

Those 2 words just don't belong together.

NEVER trust a Politician!
Always keep your eye on them.
NEVER turn your back on them & leave them to get on with it.

It would be good if someone stood over them with a whip & hit them the moment they stepped out of line!

They need constant monitoring but the media doesn't do that job because they have their own agenda.

Words of Wizdom there apple. Did you see the prog on the Poll Tax riots after the BBC1 news last night. Id forgotten just how vicious the whole thing was. Some horrific scenes in the streets of london. Wasnt it Dracula who drafted the poll tax up???????????.

cheers GF.

apple:

"It would be good if someone stood over them with a whip & hit them the moment they stepped out of line!"
You mean like Blair does now?

gf. Missed that.
Poll Tax is still the fairer way! Why should an old age couple pay the same as 'next door' with several wage earners?
Notice that the most vociferous objectors are always 'the usual suspects'! SWP et al.

GF,

Saw some of it, didn't need reminding.
Yep, it was mostly Dracula.

standber, Nope Local income tax is even fairer.

Then anyone on tiny wages is not unfairly burdoned, not just the old age couple that you mention.

17 years we had to put up with the Tories not listenining to the public, then comes along B'liar and same thing happens. We are taking a dangerous road, taking away peoples civil liberties and it wont be long before anyone gets put away (with no trial) for disagreeing with the government. New labour are more Tory than the tories. Is there a real choice???? Could the liberals govern?? The less of all evils to me.

ps Whats the next thing to get banned (could be a new thread)
fishing
green laneing (motorbikes)
motor sport
football
horse riding
walking
darts

Kivver,

It was 18 years, did you get a year off, you lucky person.

I wish BLiar & Dracula were banned from elections.

There all tossers. Nothing to choose between them. They'll tell you want you want to hear to get in and then do exactly what they want. We live in a democratic dictatorship. We're all thick, don't know anything and will do what we're told. Peasants that's us the masses. Me, the only vote I'll make is a very big "V" (that's a Winston) to the lot of them.

MS

apple.
I'll go along with a local tax.

Many a pundit said we would suffer with Labours massive majority.....it's happened alright. Some crank with a red tie dreams up something and it's law next day. Through on the nod.
Thank god they didn't completely emasculate the Lords. It would be even worse.

stabdber

You've just described a Democratic Dictatorship.

MS

I think they should put the House of Lords up as a party for election. The only defenders of democracy in Parliament. I'll vote for them.

MS
Democracy: The least worse system.
It is employed from as lowly as the local dart team, through Local Gov to National Gov. There is no other equitable way.
Many people have died fighting for it. The least we can hope is that we do not elect someone who decides to become a dictator. Mugabe.....fancy him?
A strong Upper House is our salvation.

Country going down the pan with the aid of europe (due to stupid rules and billions wasted mainly in fraud). The constant scaremongering, terrorist attack, bird flu, Jordon singing in the eurovision song contest, we are not really going to fall these age old ways of divide and rule are we??

An unelected upper house. There by birth, someone's mate or what ever. You don't elect them nor can you get rid of them. Is Blair, Thatcher or who ever any less of a Dictator the Mugabe. The only difference as I see it is that they are a bit more suttle about how they go about it. Dark forces are at work in this county just as they are elsewhere. Dictators don't listen. Sound familiar.

MS

We certainly dont want the Torries back in. Wasted the majority of North Sea Oil revenues on paying for unemployment which they wanted.

Remember they only look after the top 10% of society, dont let 'the jobsworths and two bob millionaires' of this world tell you anything else. Remember the chain gangs when Thatcher was in power, 1 job vacancy for every 100 unemployed.

Young men and women in chain gangs doing the jobs that the likes of Mears and Enterprise do now. Gangs on city centre street corners hanging about doing nothing.

The torries want it all back truth be known.

I agree. GF for PM. Got my vote.
My view Thatcher was a disaster for this county.

MS

sir bob gelof for PM!!!!!! What great job he would do!!, long as he promises not to sing.

Thatcher did not get rid of the miners.........the miners did. Greed.

And what has Bliar done? Put umpteen thousnds into Government employ. Don't forget, after six month they cannot be sacked. Think of all them copper bottomed pensions that will have to paid for. Not from their ranks but from the productive jobs in private hands. Brown has filched billions of pension fund money from the private sector. Tax and spend, the Socialist way.
Don't forget the burgeoning legions of 'Incapacity' claimants.
Get preggers, get a flat! School children getting 30 to go to school.
Where does all that binge drink money come from? Please tell me.
The catalogue of ineptitude is endless. And who will have to clear up the mess?
Not Bliar. He will soon be having a despised title. Lord Bliar of Bollockdrop.

Thatcher was a menace and should be put on a war crimes tribunal for the sinking of the Belgrano, argies out of the zone and running away, undeniable. B'liar and bush should follow them in. How caN THEY TALK ABOUT DEMOCRACY AND FREEDOM AND ACT LIKE THEY DO.

Kivver

Your absolutely right, can't add anymore to that.

standber

I was wondering if you'd get to the miners. It wasn't greed that caused the strike. It was ordinary hard working men fighting to save there jobs and there way of life, and to give them a decent standard of living for their families. It turned father against son, brother against brother and neighbour against neighbour. Whole communities were turned against each other with the effects still being felt today. Everything Scargill predicted happened. The hardship those proud communities went through to try and keep there jobs was huge. They were demonized by the right wing press that thought Thatcher was wonderful and their ranks were infiltrated by plain clothes police and army trying to making them look worse. Dark forces were at work. And where is the mining industry today, totally defunct. Ordinary people fighting for what they considered their right..a decent life. Not too much to ask for was it.
And today we have Blair, who wouldn't listen to the voices of 1 million britons, so determined was he to have his war. No one kills in my name, no sir, trying to say it's in my countries best interest, bollocks. Are we safer now, well you tell me.
That's it I'm off the soap box now.

MS