Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Good to see "Help to Work: New unemployment rules in force" is starting.

I suggest that IDS, Cameron and Porky should fill the pool with water before getting swimmers instructed to dive into it!

I hope this policy and its implementation are high lighted at the next General Election when quite a lot of Con artists will be added to the dole queues!

Long-term jobless to have to scrub war memorials and historic monuments to keep benefits

Long-term unemployed people will have to clean war memorials, restore historic monuments and look after animals at city farms to keep their benefits from today.


David Cameron, the Prime Minister, said the measures were part of a Government to get a job for everyone who can work. Photo: Reuters




6:00AM BST 28 Apr 2014

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/10791475/Long-term-jobless-to-have-to-scrub-war-memorials-and-historic-monuments-to-keep-benefits.html



Long-term unemployed people will have to clean war memorials, restore historic monuments and look after animals at city farms to keep their benefits from today.


The Government is unveiling its Help to Work scheme aimed specifically at 200,000 people who have been unemployed, or unable to hold down a job, for three years.


Under the scheme, these long-term unemployed will have to report daily to local job centres to discuss how to get back to work.


If they are judged not to have enough work experience they will be allocated volunteering roles with charities and other providers.


Typical examples include scrubbing war memorials, helping to clean up historic monuments and working in local cafés run by volunteers.


Other work includes helping out at community and city farms, cleaning and restoring river and canal banks and even sorting through second hand clothes in charity warehouses.

Failure to cooperate could see them losing work-related benefits, such as the £72-a-week job seekers’ allowance.

Government sources said the placements – which will last for up to six months each – were focused on the voluntary sector to avoid taking jobs from other people.

David Cameron, the Prime Minister, said the measures were part of a Government push to get a job for everyone who can work.

There are an estimated 600,000 job vacancies at the moment. He said: “A key part of our long-term economic plan is to move to full employment, making sure that everyone who can work is in work.

“We are seeing record levels of employment in Britain, as more and more people find a job, but we need to look at those who are persistently stuck on benefits.

“This scheme will provide more help than ever before, getting people into work and on the road to a more secure future.”

Iain Duncan Smith, the Work and Pensions Secretary, added: “Everyone with the ability to work should be given the support and opportunity to do so.

“The previous system wrote too many people off, which was a huge waste of potential for those individuals as well as for their families and the country.”

But David Green, a director of right of centre think tank Civitas, urged the Government go further and remove the three year qualifying period for the scheme.

He told The Daily Telegraph: “From the minute someone is out of a job they should be given something positive to do – not leave it for three years.”

The Government’s plans for its Help to Work scheme were originally announced at last Autumn’s Conservative party conference. Further details about the types of voluntary scheme were disclosed on Sunday.

Good idea.

I would also give them a 'toot of respect' and a 'thumbs up' as I drive past.

You wont be able to see them through the crowds of health and safety, risk managers, form tickers and line managers.

Conservative 32% (up 2%)
Labour 34% (down 2%)
Lib Dem 7% (no change)
UKIP 18% (no change)

This poll is broadly the same as the Populus poll which had both the Conservatives and Labour on 35%.

David Cameron’s personal rating has improved slightly from -11% to -8% while Ed Miliband’s has fallen from -20% to -22%.

I see nothing wrong at all with this idea of "work for benefits" though no doubt the bleeding heart brigade will squawk that it's unfair or some such nonsense

Alders sorry for late reply been a busy weekend gardening landscaping etc etc.

You said..........

aldwickk 26 Apr 2014 09:26 - 39955 of 40006

goldfinger

With CFD and spread bets , would you have to extend the time frame of the trade if the amount you have to trade is small , say 1 day to 4 or more with an amount of only £500 to £1,000 to bet because of the cost of small trades , you would need a higher % gain........................................ends.

answer, NO.

For some reason punters when they move from a commision broker to a margin broker(spreadbets) think they have to change thier 'mind set' totaly and become a Gordon Geko type character. A wheeler and dealer, I even knew a freind who went from smoking cigs to cubans.

Stricly wrong.

You just trade the same way as you did previously.

Of course on margin you become more aware of your present financial loss or profit on any position but thats not the point. If you stick rigidly to your trading plan and hold your nerve as long as your plan is set up right and you adhere to your own defined rules you will make a profit.

Remember it usualy only takes 1 winner in 4 for you to become profitable as long as you let it run and you discard the 3 other dogs promptly.

Actualy Ive been putting together a new system on entries based on getting out a lot faster on stocks that start off badly.

Now going to test it over the summer and see how it works.

You just invest the same way as you did under the old system no changes at all.

It is the crumblies that are the problem

YouGov finds that a remarkable 45% of the over 60s say they’ll be voting Ukip in the Euros

Exec,

Agreed.

I suggested similar in a post about three years ago.

The problems, I can see, is the possible stigmatization of the "workers" involved.

Also, would expect the remuneration is at the basic wages and that the companies involved do not see it as a cheap labour pool.

Profit margins going up at the expense of the tax payers.

Also, that those administrating the systems are checked regularly for abuse.


Also that the workers don't have to wear a "yellow star" to be able for the rest of society can recognise them.

Perhaps, a another useful idea for Fauxpage to develop!


Also, would like to see the number of jobs go up and the number of manual hours worked reduced.

I'm sure we'ld all like to see a stronger (full time) jobs market, but that inevitably lags the actually economy - ie slack within the system first has to be absorbed

I don't know who currently pays for cleaning war memorials and the like, nor exactly how this new system will operate
i'ld guess at you have to work a given number of hours to qualify for the benefits in question, but I recollect that a similar system has operated in CA for many years during the citrus harvest

Who the hell are these UKIP people...?....don't know anything about them...polls correct..18 %..?..blimey...

RF,

A bunch of ex "Con" party, Small Employers etc. in the main (thats the hierarchy) their voters however are a mix.

A fair number of old labour people are interested in ukip too.

How many? No idea!

But Farage got a big welcome when he was oop north a few weeks ago.

Indeed MK, As I said their voters are a mix.

YouGov’s poll this weekend found that almost one in five of Labour’s 2010 voters said they would be voting UKIP on May 22. One in ten Labour 2010 voters said they would vote UKIP in 2015.

And what about your "Con" Party?

Quite a few Stan, I'm one of them.

Far more Conservatives are going to vote UKIP at the Euros, but the point is that Labour are now losing voters. They had thought that labour was immune to UKIP, but they are now campaigning in the north of England in Labour's heartland with a lot of success.

Please read the piece below and then think about this couple, Paul and Sandra Dunham and who are the subject of an American Extradition Order.

Neither the Home Secretary not the Prime minister will utter a peep of a comment. Fortunately, our local MP, Andrea Leadsom, will but unfortunately she hasn't been able to do much to help because of the extradition laws. All that can be done is to keep appealing to a higher and even higher court.

It doesn't really matter whether they are 'Guilty' or whether they are 'Innocent' of the (most probably 'malicious') charges levied against them.

After you've read the news article, compare it with what happened to Haroon Aswat, the paranoid schizophrenic radical Islamist, who is accused of setting up a terrorist training camp in Oregon.

Northampton grandparents Paul and Sandra Dunham to be extradited to USA within days after losing final battle
Written by NICHOLAS BIEBER
Published: 28/04/2014 08:00 - Updated: 28/04/2014 01:29

A Northampton couple fighting extradition to the USA over an alleged work expenses fraud have lost their final battle to stop it going ahead.

Paul and Sandra Dunham appealed last week to The European Court of Human Rights in their last hope of avoiding extradition. However, the ECHR has now said it will not get involved in their case.

The married couple in their late 50s will now be extradited to the USA within 28 days to face charges in Maryland, with the possibility of months behind bars waiting for trial and the prospect of years in jail if found guilty.

Paul Dunham said: “Sandra and I are simply devastated. In fact we’re disgusted. The High Court recently ruled that an alleged terrorist will not be extradited to America without specific assurances as to his medical treatment. Yet Sandra and I, both honest, hardworking British tax-payers all our lives, now suffering from acute mental health problems, are being parcelled off without a thought for our welfare. We are heartbroken at being forced to leave behind my aged father, our son, our beloved 5 grandchildren and our cherished two dogs. We are innocent of any wrongdoing but no British court will hear our evidence.

“We’re both approaching 60 and our future is separation from each other, locked up a truly grim former Supermax prison, for an undisclosed period of pre-trial detention. We don’t have money to secure bail. This is before any court has examined our defence. How did Britain become so unjust?”

Michael Evans, of Kaim Todner Ltd, the Dunhams’ solicitor, said: “The treatment being meted out to the Dunhams is brutal – whilst politicians of all seniority and political persuasion wring their hands saying there’s nothing they can do to stop the bulldozer that is US extradition. It’s a sad day for justice.”

Read more: http://www.northampton-news-hp.co.uk/News/Northampton-News/Northampton-grandparents-Paul-and-Sandra-Dunham-to-be-extradited-to-USA-within-days-after-losing-final-battle-20140428080000.htm#ixzz30Ayw5iVM