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Israeli Gaza conflict?????? (GAZA)     

Fred1new - 06 Jan 2009 19:21

Will this increase or decrease the likelihood of terrorist actions in America, Europe and the rest of the world?

If you were a member of a family murdered in this conflict, would you be seeking revenge?

Should Tzipi Livni and Ehud Olmert, be tried for war crimes if or when this conflict comes to an end?

What will the price of oil be in 4 weeks time?

Fred1new - 24 Jan 2011 15:28 - 4137 of 6906

N.

I'm O.K My wife has found my medication.




















She has started to take it again.


8-)

aldwickk - 24 Jan 2011 18:24 - 4138 of 6906

" You can smell the stench. " Someone change his nappy .....

In The Land of the B - 24 Jan 2011 21:52 - 4139 of 6906

" You can smell the stench. " Someone change his nappy .....

Brilliant :)

fahel - 27 Jan 2011 14:38 - 4140 of 6906

Israel hopes to colonize parts of Iraq as Greater Israel
By Wayne Madsen
Online Journal Contributing Writer

http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_4301.shtml

In The Land of the B - 27 Jan 2011 15:28 - 4141 of 6906

I'm surprised Israel isn't being blamed by the morons on here for all the turmoil in the Arab world LOL

Haystack - 27 Jan 2011 16:52 - 4142 of 6906

That would be unlikely as it is not in Israel's interests. In fact the possible shift in politics especially in Egypt, which has been assisting Israel in the last few years, will increase pressure on Israael.

cynic - 27 Jan 2011 16:57 - 4143 of 6906

surely not the fundamentalists at work

Haystack - 27 Jan 2011 17:09 - 4144 of 6906

It seems that in Egypt the uprising is not the result of factions like the Muslim Brotherhood, which has in recent times has had pretty poor support. It is more of a popular force due to rising prices and lack of freedom. That's not to say that if there is a power vacuum in some of countries, there will not be a shift towards fundamentalism. There are several countries in the region which are vunerable, such as Yemen which has had a virtual dictatorship for more than 30 years. The recent disclosures from Aljazeera are no surprise to many people. The PA has always covertly cooperated with Israel and the US (probably the proper word would be colaborators). There is going to be serious trouble over the released documents. I would expect the whole region to be entering a period of increased instability.

fahel - 28 Jan 2011 11:38 - 4145 of 6906

Settlers kill a Palestinian Boy and Injure Another near Hebron
Hebron PNN A Palestinian teenager was shot dead, another sustained wounds by settlers who attacked the village of Safa near the southern West Bank city of Hebron on Friday morning.

Witnesses told PNN that a group of 100 Israeli armed settlers from the illegal settlement of Beit Ayen near the village attacked Safa and started to shoot at residents homes. The settlers were divided into two groups. One group stayed attacking villagers homes and the other group opened fire at local farmers working their lands.



Armed Settlers in Hebron - Archive Yousif Ikhlayal, 17, was hit with a live round in his head as settlers shot at his father and him while working on their lands. Ikhlayal was moved to Hebron city hospital for treatment doctors there pronounced him clinically dead.

The settlers continued their attack, later 16 year old Bilal Quqass was injured in his arm when settlers opened fire at his house.

Residents of Safa along with people from the nearby village of Sourif tried to force the settlers out of the village.

Witnesses told PNN that Israeli troops arrived and attacked residents and provided protection for the settlers. After the soldiers forced the residents back to the village, the settlers went back to their illegal settlement.

The reason behind the settlers attack remains unknown until the time of this report

Fred1new - 31 Jan 2011 10:33 - 4146 of 6906

Any ideas of what happens in Gaza after a Hosni Mubarak capitulates.

Interesting to see the beginning of the disintegration of previous American foreign policy and its effects on that area.

cynic - 31 Jan 2011 10:49 - 4147 of 6906

no change - smuggling tunnels will remain open yielding fat profits for those concerned ..... arab world will just sit back and watch and wait, per current scenario

Haystack - 31 Jan 2011 12:37 - 4148 of 6906

Not surprising that Abbas and the PA have offered their support to Mubarak. They are another US puppet like Egypt. The US is responsible for keeping a dictator in office to support their policies in the ME, chiefly that of supporting Israel. The average Egyptian is not in favour of support for Israel. hopefully that might change if there is a major change in government. It was intersting watching numerous US commentators on CNN, Fox yesterday. They all said that Israel is the country that needs to be worried about the current situation.

This is intereseting from an Israeli newspaper.

http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/israel-urges-world-to-curb-criticism-of-egypt-s-mubarak-1.340238

"Israel called on the United States and a number of European countries over the weekend to curb their criticism of President Hosni Mubarak to preserve stability in the region."

"The peace between Israel and Egypt has lasted for more than three decades and our objective is to ensure that these relations will continue to exist," Netanyahu told his ministers. "We are closely monitoring events in Egypt and the region and are making efforts to preserve its security and stability."



cynic - 31 Jan 2011 13:21 - 4149 of 6906

you should stand for president of the Rambling Association .... you'ld bore them all to death and be elected unopposed

In The Land of the B - 31 Jan 2011 13:37 - 4150 of 6906

He'd desecrate the countryside with his vileness :)


"The average Egyptian is not in favour of support for Israel. hopefully that might change if there is a major change in government. "

There's nothing you'd love more (apart form nuclear strikes on Israel and the killing of Jews everywhere) than Egypt declaring war against Israel yet again.

Peace has to come from both sides making compromises based on growth of trust, and yet the hatred filled hay parrot et al want to see the end of the PA in the West Bank, even though the latter clearly recognise the need to compromise.

cynic - 31 Jan 2011 13:47 - 4151 of 6906

ITLOB - BOTH sides need to compromise and significantly at that ..... unfortunately, even if much is going on behind the scenes (quite likely), there are a variety of outside parties pulling strings for whom a sustainable peace in the region would NOT be a satisfactory outcome

Fred1new - 31 Jan 2011 13:57 - 4152 of 6906

Hays,

Agreed with most of your evaluation.

In The Land of the B - 31 Jan 2011 14:18 - 4153 of 6906

cynic,
Agreed.
I don't think Netanyahu and certainly not Liebermann have the statesmanship or foresight that Begin had when he made peace with a willing Egypt and Jordan.
Of course it was easier then as Israel didn't have a hostile entity intermingled on its borders as with the West Bank. Personally I'm very hopeful having seen the willingness of the current Abbas administration to face reality. If that can be maintained and if the current attempts to gain international recognition proceed moderately successfully then there is more pressure on the current Israeli government to compromise more. Maybe even that Palestinian attempt at a peaceful political and diplomatic campaign will engender a growing sense of trust in the Israeli body politic and the electorate.

cynic - 31 Jan 2011 14:33 - 4154 of 6906

one can live in hope even if not great expectation, though it eventually came to pass in Ireland, despite some pretty appalling treatment to the locals going back to mediaeval days - Henry V and prob earlier if i remember my history correctly

Ruth - 31 Jan 2011 15:34 - 4155 of 6906

Is there a bit of a love fest going on with Haystack and Fred?
Im just sat here wondering who plays which role ?

Stan - 31 Jan 2011 15:48 - 4156 of 6906

Never mind Wondering how about thinking for a change.
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