Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

I found out something interesting. The Labour vote will make no difference. They are just playing politics.

Opposition day motions aren't binding. EU/UK status will be subject to Brexit negotiation once it starts.

When art50 is activated, are we then free merchants in that we can make our own laws?

ie, sprout law no longer applies?

NO. We then have to wait at least two more years and possibly longer if the EU agrees to an extension. During that period as many EUs can come here as they want. It looks like we will guarantee that they can stay forever.

I asked about laws.

However, the immigrant thing is relevant, will we be able to impose our own qualification rules? Otherwise, it will for sure be a free for all.

No. We are subject to EU laws until we leave.

Crabb has dropped out and has given his support to Theresa May. His supporters may follow.

Liam Fox is supporting Theresa May

I think we can already now say for sure, that it is going to be a contest between Theresa and Andrea with the outcome to be decided and indicated to everyone before 9 Septemebr 2016 when the choice has been voted on by about 150,000 Conservative Party Members.

We must not forget that:

Theresa May is a 'Remainer' and the majority of the country are 'Leavers'

Andrea Leadsom is a 'Leaver'. Could the majority of the Conservative Party Members be Leavers too? If so, will they vote for a 'Leaver' or a 'Remainer?

I tend to agree with what Ken Clarke said today, that Andrea is not really that keen on Leaving at all and nor was Boris. They both saw it as a good strategy to get on in the party.

Andrea Leadsom is the ‘real world’ candidate, with prime Thatcherite credentials. It is no surprise that Tory grandees this week spent hours on the phone persuading her to stand.

She will bill herself as the person who will deliver Brexit because she is passionate about the outcome.

She was the driving force behind the “fresh start” project, set up in 2011, which carried out hundreds of interviews and research projects which rethought Britain’s entire relationship with the EU.

Before she became an MP she was a banker who worked closely with the Bank of England, and so can offer certainty and understanding of the financial markets.

I wonder what her thoughts and credentials are about Foreign Policy?

Here is her "Vote Leave letter to her Constituents" as published on her Blog:

http://www.andrealeadsom.com/downloads/voteleave.pdf

As you can see, it's pretty simple stuff and extremely persuasive.

She seems extremely strong on Economics, the EU, Trade, Finance and Banking, and looks like she would also be very strong on Management.

However, I would like to see someone of some strength interview her to ascertain what her opinions are about Foreign Policy and Defence.

Its only right that those who was here working before the referendum
are allowed to stay, but once article 50 is invoked then that should be
a cut off point for allowing anymore into the country, because what you'l
get is migrants making a last dash into the UK. Whether the eu regulations
say otherwise or not...

And there is an estimated 70,000 in the country that have no job, they should
be sent back to their own countries and not allowed to remain.

I can't see anything that can be done about it. There were warnings before the referendum that there would be a rush to get here from the EU before the exit date.

I like Frankie Boyle's description.

Andrea Leadsom, who was created by Nazi scientists as a response to Dame Vera Lynn.

And so we have a Conservative leadership election, a sort of X Factor for choosing the antichrist. Already, the cast looks like the episode of Come Dine With Me they show in hell before Top Gear comes on

As they are both Tories Haystack can't you just say may the best one win . Is there any need for this slagging and back stabbing attitude .

Yes day I do remember!

Haystack was Dave's man. But Dave is no more, and Haystack has gravitated to the princess of darkness instead.

Theresa De Teflon:


http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/07/05/prime-minister-theresa-may-insult-democracy/

With the drop in the value of the pound, how many "pensioners" on "sterling" pensions living in the EU will decide to return to the UK.

That should put pressure on the NHS and Welfare Services etc..

Wonder what the knock-on effects are going to be.

I suppose when we have less unskilled immigrants pouring in using the NHS and taking benefits it will be fine.

Do you actually like living Freda I mean you tirelessly come on here spouting negativity , or is your live so miserable you want others to be on the same level .

Vicky,

I am just observing what is happening.

Trying to open the eyes of the blind.