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Referendum : to be in Europe or not to be ?, that is the question ! (REF)     

required field - 03 Feb 2016 10:00

Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Haystack - 05 Jul 2016 19:48 - 4278 of 12628

NO. We then have to wait at least two more years and possibly longer if the EU agrees to an extension. During that period as many EUs can come here as they want. It looks like we will guarantee that they can stay forever.

MaxK - 05 Jul 2016 19:53 - 4279 of 12628

I asked about laws.

However, the immigrant thing is relevant, will we be able to impose our own qualification rules? Otherwise, it will for sure be a free for all.

Haystack - 05 Jul 2016 20:01 - 4280 of 12628

No. We are subject to EU laws until we leave.

Haystack - 05 Jul 2016 20:16 - 4281 of 12628

Crabb has dropped out and has given his support to Theresa May. His supporters may follow.

Haystack - 05 Jul 2016 20:33 - 4282 of 12628

Liam Fox is supporting Theresa May

ExecLine - 05 Jul 2016 21:11 - 4283 of 12628

I think we can already now say for sure, that it is going to be a contest between Theresa and Andrea with the outcome to be decided and indicated to everyone before 9 Septemebr 2016 when the choice has been voted on by about 150,000 Conservative Party Members.

We must not forget that:

Theresa May is a 'Remainer' and the majority of the country are 'Leavers'

Andrea Leadsom is a 'Leaver'. Could the majority of the Conservative Party Members be Leavers too? If so, will they vote for a 'Leaver' or a 'Remainer?

Haystack - 05 Jul 2016 21:21 - 4284 of 12628

I tend to agree with what Ken Clarke said today, that Andrea is not really that keen on Leaving at all and nor was Boris. They both saw it as a good strategy to get on in the party.

ExecLine - 05 Jul 2016 21:30 - 4285 of 12628

Andrea Leadsom is the ‘real world’ candidate, with prime Thatcherite credentials. It is no surprise that Tory grandees this week spent hours on the phone persuading her to stand.

She will bill herself as the person who will deliver Brexit because she is passionate about the outcome.

She was the driving force behind the “fresh start” project, set up in 2011, which carried out hundreds of interviews and research projects which rethought Britain’s entire relationship with the EU.

Before she became an MP she was a banker who worked closely with the Bank of England, and so can offer certainty and understanding of the financial markets.

I wonder what her thoughts and credentials are about Foreign Policy?

Here is her "Vote Leave letter to her Constituents" as published on her Blog:

http://www.andrealeadsom.com/downloads/voteleave.pdf

As you can see, it's pretty simple stuff and extremely persuasive.

She seems extremely strong on Economics, the EU, Trade, Finance and Banking, and looks like she would also be very strong on Management.

However, I would like to see someone of some strength interview her to ascertain what her opinions are about Foreign Policy and Defence.

grannyboy - 05 Jul 2016 21:42 - 4286 of 12628

Its only right that those who was here working before the referendum
are allowed to stay, but once article 50 is invoked then that should be
a cut off point for allowing anymore into the country, because what you'l
get is migrants making a last dash into the UK. Whether the eu regulations
say otherwise or not...

And there is an estimated 70,000 in the country that have no job, they should
be sent back to their own countries and not allowed to remain.

Haystack - 05 Jul 2016 21:51 - 4287 of 12628

I can't see anything that can be done about it. There were warnings before the referendum that there would be a rush to get here from the EU before the exit date.

Haystack - 05 Jul 2016 22:08 - 4288 of 12628

I like Frankie Boyle's description.

Andrea Leadsom, who was created by Nazi scientists as a response to Dame Vera Lynn.

And so we have a Conservative leadership election, a sort of X Factor for choosing the antichrist. Already, the cast looks like the episode of Come Dine With Me they show in hell before Top Gear comes on

VICTIM - 06 Jul 2016 08:02 - 4289 of 12628

As they are both Tories Haystack can't you just say may the best one win . Is there any need for this slagging and back stabbing attitude .

Fred1new - 06 Jul 2016 08:15 - 4290 of 12628




Yes day I do remember!

MaxK - 06 Jul 2016 08:17 - 4291 of 12628

Haystack was Dave's man. But Dave is no more, and Haystack has gravitated to the princess of darkness instead.

Theresa De Teflon:


http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/07/05/prime-minister-theresa-may-insult-democracy/

Fred1new - 06 Jul 2016 08:25 - 4292 of 12628

With the drop in the value of the pound, how many "pensioners" on "sterling" pensions living in the EU will decide to return to the UK.

That should put pressure on the NHS and Welfare Services etc..

Wonder what the knock-on effects are going to be.

jimmy b - 06 Jul 2016 08:27 - 4293 of 12628

I suppose when we have less unskilled immigrants pouring in using the NHS and taking benefits it will be fine.

VICTIM - 06 Jul 2016 08:30 - 4294 of 12628

Do you actually like living Freda I mean you tirelessly come on here spouting negativity , or is your live so miserable you want others to be on the same level .

Fred1new - 06 Jul 2016 08:33 - 4295 of 12628

Vicky,

I am just observing what is happening.

Trying to open the eyes of the blind.

jimmy b - 06 Jul 2016 08:34 - 4296 of 12628

This is Fred on a good day.....

VICTIM - 06 Jul 2016 08:34 - 4297 of 12628

Or the blind leading the blind maybe .
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