Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Wealthy tax dodgers are Britain’s REAL wreckers and that’s the long and short of it14/7/2014



That was then: John Cleese, Ronnie Barker and Ronnie Corbett

There is a famous 1966 comedy sketch from The Frost Report that you’ve no doubt seen.

The one where Ronnie Corbett (4ft 11in), Ronnie Barker (5ft 8in) and John Cleese (6ft 5in) highlight the rising levels of superiority (symbolised by increasing height) between the lower, middle and upper classes in Britain.

If the sketch was re-made today only two comedians would be needed: Ricky Gervais’s mates Warwick Davis (3ft 6in) and Stephen Merchant (6ft 7in).

Because the way wealth is being polarised in this country there will soon be only two classes of people: the Haves and the Have Nots.

Or rather, the “I have so much money I spend all my time worrying what to do with it” and the rest.

And, as between Merchant and Davis, the gap between the two groups is phenomenal.

Since the financial crash of 2008, the average Briton’s savings have fallen by 21%.

Yet, according to the Rich List, the assets of the top 1,000 have doubled to £519billion.

We learned this week that it now takes the average FTSE 100 boss (annual salary £4.72million) two days to earn what the average worker (annual salary £26,500) makes in a year.

We also learned on the day hundreds of thousands of public sector workers went on strike to protest against the savage cuts in their living standards since this Government came to power, that 33,000 of the richest earners, some of them ­household names, have been deliberately avoiding paying £5.1billion in tax.



No middle man: No need for Gervais these days as Merchant and Davies demonstrate wealth gap.

It’s usually at this point that I blame it all on Thatcher’s culture of greed.

Yet I have a bigger problem with the last Labour Government and their starry-eyed hero-worship of the rich.

Remember Peter Mandelson remarking as he hopped between yachts how New Labour was “intensely relaxed about people getting filthy rich”.

Maybe that’s how they attracted such fair-weather friends as Sir Michael Caine, who quickly turned his ire on them when Gordon Brown introduced the 50p tax rate in 2009.

“We’ve got 3.5 million layabouts laying about on benefits, and I’m 76, getting up at 6am to go to work to keep them,” he whined, before going on to publicly back David Cameron.

Tory supporting Lord Andrew Lloyd Webber, meanwhile, called that 50p tax “the politics of envy”.

You won’t be surprised to learn that both Caine and Lloyd Webber were outed this week as tax avoiders.

Or spongers.

http://i4.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article3825146.ece/alternates/s615/Sir-Michael-Caine.jpg

Outed: Labour’s fair-weather freind Michael Caine

The assumed wisdom in modern Britain seems to be that decent wages, bonuses and pensions are not for the little people but the big earners. Because they are vital to the country’s wealth.

Argue with that, as public sector workers did on Thursday, and you’re cast as selfish wreckers.

But who is truly vital to your life?

The people who teach your kids, fight your fires, care for you in hospital and empty your bins?

Or the ones who make records, films, TV shows and lots of money. Then hold back the taxes on that money to make themselves richer.

Who really wrecks this country? Those who don’t pay their share to fund it, or those asked to make this country work for less money every year?

I’d take an honest striker over a dishonest sponger every time.

Chris the person who you used to look up to as been outed today.

Tory clubs the length and breadth of this country are destroying any trace of Margaret Hilda.

Shes actualy worse than the vile evil men she protected and no doubt her relationship with MI5 will be outed over the coming months.

This is just the start.

She as single handed destroyed the Tory Party.

You mark my words going forward over the coming weeks and months.

Keep dreaming GF, you red flag flyers must be getting desperate to resort to this shite.

Another one in denial.

WE havent seen Hays all day long, hes gone into hiding.

UPDATE: 'Shambles': Child Sex Abuse Inquiry Condemned As Head Resigns After Less Than A Week

Margaret Thatcher is said to have told one of her senior ministers to "clean up" his sexual antics as rumours swirled that he had abused young boys at a colleague's home, according to allegations made in the Sunday People.

And further allegations that the then-Prime Minister knew about a so-called sex ring among senior ministers have been bolstered by astonishing claims in the Sunday Mirror by former Tory activist Anthony Gilberthorpe, who said he sent her a 40-page dossier in 1989 accusing Cabinet members of abusing underage boys at drug-fuelled parties.

Thatcher is accused of a "cover up" by a separate senior source with links to Scotland Yard, who spoke to the Sunday People. He described how a senior minister was accused of sexually molesting young boys at the home of his constituency agent in 1982.The minister was allegedly summoned to Downing Street for a meeting with Thatcher, Home Secretary Willie Whitelaw, a senior ­policeman and an MI5 officer and told to watch his behaviour. He was not disciplined or sacked.

But the minister apparently did not heed Thatcher's warning, and the source claimed was caught by police soliciting young boys at the toilets at Victoria station four years later, it has been claimed. Officers are said to have warned the minister about his "behaviour" but again took no further action.

The Sunday People source claims he was told about the alleged "cover-up" by Alec Marnoch, Operations Commander for Scotland Yard in Westminster and the West End, who died in 1999. The source also said that Marnoch hinted to him that the same politician had been caught hanging around the "chicken rack', a set of railings near Piccadilly tube station which was a hotspot for picking up boys for sex in the 1980s.

Tory activist Gilberthorpe told the Sunday Mirror that Thatcher was well-informed about the allegations. "I made it very clear to Mrs Thatcher most trusted ministers had been at these parties with boys who were between 15 and 16. I also told her of the amount of illegal drugs like cocaine that were consumed."

He added that he had given her the name of several MPs including one still sitting today. Gilberthorpe says he received no response from No10 – but was instead summoned to a meeting with William Hague, who had replaced ex-Home Secretary Leon Brittan as MP for Richmond in North Yorkshire. Hague, Gilberthorpe said, "hardly said anything" but a senior civil servant at the meeting said it was "libelous" to make such accusations without evidence.


14 July 2014
uk-politics UK HuffingtonPost

I'm not sure just what political party he belongs to these days but, when it comes to massive tax avoidance, let's not forget this guy:

Tony Blair made millions of pounds last year but paid just a fraction of it in tax thanks to the complicated web of companies he has established.

The former prime minister’s secretive business empire declared an income of £12million.
But he was able to reduce his tax bill to just £315,000 after writing off almost £11million as ‘administrative expenses’ – a ‘surprisingly’ high figure, according to one accountant.

The figures show that Mr Blair employed 26 staff, paying them total wages of almost £2.3million, while another £850,000 went on office rent and equipment.
Yet that leaves almost £8million of unexplained ‘expenses’ in the accounts, lodged at Companies House last week.

Yesterday Mr Blair’s closest ally, Lord Falconer, admitted the former premier’s money-making had destroyed trust in him. He said: ‘The constant framing of Tony in the context of earning money has been very damaging.’

Mr Blair runs a business consultancy – Tony Blair Associates – which has deals with the governments of Kuwait and Kazakhstan. He is also a paid adviser to U.S. investment bank JP Morgan and to Zurich International, a Swiss-based insurance company.
And the huge turnover revealed in the latest accounts is potentially only the tip of the iceberg.

The full extent of Mr Blair’s income is cloaked in secrecy because he has constructed a network of companies and partnerships which allows him to avoid publishing full accounts for all his commercial ventures.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2083827/The-12m-tax-mystery-Tony-Blairs-earnings-soar-42--pays-315-000-HMRC.html#ixzz37SjXP4fW

Good ol Tone, a true man of the people and a workers best friend.

There's nothing whatsoever wrong with tax avoidance. Bring it on.

It's stupid for anybody earning GBP 100k+ to be paying tax if they can avoid it legitimately.

Giddeon Osbourne disagrees and is going after the thieves.

You now going to vote labour Hilary?, lets face it this is the end of the Tories now.

Thatcher being outed and all.

Remember this is just the beginning.

gf
I have been out all day putting in a kitchen for the mother in law. I am quite pleased to have missed your usual nonsense.

Hays how was Hilarys then???????????????????

the whole of the following is interesting, i think ......

Chicago drug maker AbbVie is a big step closer to slashing its tax bill: Its U.K. takeover target, Shire, said it would recommend accepting a new, higher bid.
That would enable AbbVie (ABBV) to switch its home base to the U.K. and pay a lower rate of tax.

The latest bid of £31.4 billion pounds ($54 billion) is the fifth since early May, and is 35% higher than the original offer.
AbbVie thinks it can achieve a "competitive tax domicile" by moving its base to the U.K., where the rate of corporate tax will be just 20% beginning next April. That's down from 26% in 2011. The U.S. rate is 35%.

And meanwhile the poorer get poorer and poorer.

Re- FTSE bosses 250 times average salary.

That maybe 150 times either way it stinks.

Ten years ago it was a multiple of just 9.

Corp tax 35% in the land of the lawyer?


But if it's tax rates, why not relocate to paddyland, it's even cheaper.

But we live in a prosperous conservative state.

The wealthy plunder and then conserve!

They do now Fred but its the last stand after todays news on thatcher and the peados.

Slowly but surely one by one they will be caught.

RESHUFFLE .............so far.........

8:34pm: Attorney General Dominic Grieve leaves the government.

8:16pm: Transport minister Stephen Hammond out.

8:07pm: Police minister Damian Green sacked.

7:30pm: David Willetts quits, will leave parliament next year.

7:27pm: Nick Hurd stands down as Minister for Civil Society.

7:18pm: Northern Ireland Minister Andrew Robathan quits.

7:17pm: Development Minister Alan Duncan quits “at his own request”.

5:36pm: Ken Clarke quits as Minister Without Portfolio.

5:29pm: David Jones sacked as Welsh Secretary.

Jim Pickard ‏@PickardJE 1m
The most sensational rumour is William Hague quitting no idea if true yet