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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

goldfinger - 14 Jul 2014 17:35 - 43594 of 81564

Another one in denial.

WE havent seen Hays all day long, hes gone into hiding.

goldfinger - 14 Jul 2014 17:38 - 43595 of 81564


UPDATE: 'Shambles': Child Sex Abuse Inquiry Condemned As Head Resigns After Less Than A Week

Margaret Thatcher is said to have told one of her senior ministers to "clean up" his sexual antics as rumours swirled that he had abused young boys at a colleague's home, according to allegations made in the Sunday People.

And further allegations that the then-Prime Minister knew about a so-called sex ring among senior ministers have been bolstered by astonishing claims in the Sunday Mirror by former Tory activist Anthony Gilberthorpe, who said he sent her a 40-page dossier in 1989 accusing Cabinet members of abusing underage boys at drug-fuelled parties.

Thatcher is accused of a "cover up" by a separate senior source with links to Scotland Yard, who spoke to the Sunday People. He described how a senior minister was accused of sexually molesting young boys at the home of his constituency agent in 1982.The minister was allegedly summoned to Downing Street for a meeting with Thatcher, Home Secretary Willie Whitelaw, a senior ­policeman and an MI5 officer and told to watch his behaviour. He was not disciplined or sacked.

But the minister apparently did not heed Thatcher's warning, and the source claimed was caught by police soliciting young boys at the toilets at Victoria station four years later, it has been claimed. Officers are said to have warned the minister about his "behaviour" but again took no further action.

The Sunday People source claims he was told about the alleged "cover-up" by Alec Marnoch, Operations Commander for Scotland Yard in Westminster and the West End, who died in 1999. The source also said that Marnoch hinted to him that the same politician had been caught hanging around the "chicken rack', a set of railings near Piccadilly tube station which was a hotspot for picking up boys for sex in the 1980s.

Tory activist Gilberthorpe told the Sunday Mirror that Thatcher was well-informed about the allegations. "I made it very clear to Mrs Thatcher most trusted ministers had been at these parties with boys who were between 15 and 16. I also told her of the amount of illegal drugs like cocaine that were consumed."

He added that he had given her the name of several MPs including one still sitting today. Gilberthorpe says he received no response from No10 – but was instead summoned to a meeting with William Hague, who had replaced ex-Home Secretary Leon Brittan as MP for Richmond in North Yorkshire. Hague, Gilberthorpe said, "hardly said anything" but a senior civil servant at the meeting said it was "libelous" to make such accusations without evidence.


14 July 2014
uk-politics UK HuffingtonPost

ExecLine - 14 Jul 2014 17:53 - 43596 of 81564

I'm not sure just what political party he belongs to these days but, when it comes to massive tax avoidance, let's not forget this guy:

Tony Blair made millions of pounds last year but paid just a fraction of it in tax thanks to the complicated web of companies he has established.

The former prime minister’s secretive business empire declared an income of £12million.
But he was able to reduce his tax bill to just £315,000 after writing off almost £11million as ‘administrative expenses’ – a ‘surprisingly’ high figure, according to one accountant.

The figures show that Mr Blair employed 26 staff, paying them total wages of almost £2.3million, while another £850,000 went on office rent and equipment.
Yet that leaves almost £8million of unexplained ‘expenses’ in the accounts, lodged at Companies House last week.

Yesterday Mr Blair’s closest ally, Lord Falconer, admitted the former premier’s money-making had destroyed trust in him. He said: ‘The constant framing of Tony in the context of earning money has been very damaging.’

Mr Blair runs a business consultancy – Tony Blair Associates – which has deals with the governments of Kuwait and Kazakhstan. He is also a paid adviser to U.S. investment bank JP Morgan and to Zurich International, a Swiss-based insurance company.
And the huge turnover revealed in the latest accounts is potentially only the tip of the iceberg.

The full extent of Mr Blair’s income is cloaked in secrecy because he has constructed a network of companies and partnerships which allows him to avoid publishing full accounts for all his commercial ventures.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2083827/The-12m-tax-mystery-Tony-Blairs-earnings-soar-42--pays-315-000-HMRC.html#ixzz37SjXP4fW

MaxK - 14 Jul 2014 18:14 - 43597 of 81564

Good ol Tone, a true man of the people and a workers best friend.

hilary - 14 Jul 2014 18:17 - 43598 of 81564

There's nothing whatsoever wrong with tax avoidance. Bring it on.

It's stupid for anybody earning GBP 100k+ to be paying tax if they can avoid it legitimately.

goldfinger - 14 Jul 2014 19:40 - 43599 of 81564

Giddeon Osbourne disagrees and is going after the thieves.

You now going to vote labour Hilary?, lets face it this is the end of the Tories now.

Thatcher being outed and all.

Remember this is just the beginning.

Haystack - 14 Jul 2014 19:44 - 43600 of 81564

gf
I have been out all day putting in a kitchen for the mother in law. I am quite pleased to have missed your usual nonsense.

goldfinger - 14 Jul 2014 19:45 - 43601 of 81564

Hays how was Hilarys then???????????????????

cynic - 14 Jul 2014 19:57 - 43602 of 81564

the whole of the following is interesting, i think ......

Chicago drug maker AbbVie is a big step closer to slashing its tax bill: Its U.K. takeover target, Shire, said it would recommend accepting a new, higher bid.
That would enable AbbVie (ABBV) to switch its home base to the U.K. and pay a lower rate of tax.

The latest bid of £31.4 billion pounds ($54 billion) is the fifth since early May, and is 35% higher than the original offer.
AbbVie thinks it can achieve a "competitive tax domicile" by moving its base to the U.K., where the rate of corporate tax will be just 20% beginning next April. That's down from 26% in 2011. The U.S. rate is 35%.

goldfinger - 14 Jul 2014 20:22 - 43603 of 81564

And meanwhile the poorer get poorer and poorer.

Re- FTSE bosses 250 times average salary.

goldfinger - 14 Jul 2014 20:23 - 43604 of 81564

That maybe 150 times either way it stinks.

goldfinger - 14 Jul 2014 20:24 - 43605 of 81564

Ten years ago it was a multiple of just 9.

MaxK - 14 Jul 2014 20:26 - 43606 of 81564

Corp tax 35% in the land of the lawyer?


But if it's tax rates, why not relocate to paddyland, it's even cheaper.

Fred1new - 14 Jul 2014 20:28 - 43607 of 81564

But we live in a prosperous conservative state.

The wealthy plunder and then conserve!

goldfinger - 14 Jul 2014 20:31 - 43608 of 81564

They do now Fred but its the last stand after todays news on thatcher and the peados.

Slowly but surely one by one they will be caught.

goldfinger - 14 Jul 2014 20:38 - 43609 of 81564

RESHUFFLE .............so far.........

8:34pm: Attorney General Dominic Grieve leaves the government.

8:16pm: Transport minister Stephen Hammond out.

8:07pm: Police minister Damian Green sacked.

7:30pm: David Willetts quits, will leave parliament next year.

7:27pm: Nick Hurd stands down as Minister for Civil Society.

7:18pm: Northern Ireland Minister Andrew Robathan quits.

7:17pm: Development Minister Alan Duncan quits “at his own request”.

5:36pm: Ken Clarke quits as Minister Without Portfolio.

5:29pm: David Jones sacked as Welsh Secretary.

goldfinger - 14 Jul 2014 20:52 - 43610 of 81564

Jim Pickard ‏@PickardJE 1m
The most sensational rumour is William Hague quitting no idea if true yet

goldfinger - 14 Jul 2014 20:53 - 43611 of 81564

Looks to me like all the legal Eagles are quitting, I wonder why!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

goldfinger - 14 Jul 2014 21:19 - 43612 of 81564

LATEST........

9:07pm: Solicitor General Oliver Heald also leaving.

9.03pm: Greg Barker out of DECC and will quit parliament next year.

8:34pm: Attorney General Dominic Grieve leaves the government.

8:16pm: Transport minister Stephen Hammond out.

8:07pm: Police minister Damian Green sacked.

7:30pm: David Willetts quits, will leave parliament next year.

7:27pm: Nick Hurd stands down as Minister for Civil Society.

7:18pm: Northern Ireland Minister Andrew Robathan quits.

7:17pm: Development Minister Alan Duncan quits “at his own request”.

5:36pm: Ken Clarke quits as Minister Without Portfolio.

5:29pm: David Jones sacked as Welsh Secretary

goldfinger - 14 Jul 2014 21:20 - 43613 of 81564

Looks to me like Camoron is panic struck........far more to come they say!!!!!!!!!!!!
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