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Referendum : to be in Europe or not to be ?, that is the question ! (REF)     

required field - 03 Feb 2016 10:00

Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Haystack - 11 Jul 2016 12:34 - 4412 of 12628

There is still the possibility that another candidate might be found under the rules.

Haystack - 11 Jul 2016 12:54 - 4413 of 12628

Gove and Boris have both said they won't attempt to be candidates and support Theresa May.

mentor - 11 Jul 2016 12:55 - 4414 of 12628

The knives are back on the sheaths for the Tory Party ............

...... but maybe we will needed them soon for the Labour Party

cynic - 11 Jul 2016 12:59 - 4415 of 12628

i would certainly rather a proper contested election and it's a shame leadsom found she hadn't the stomach for it ....... confess it's not a job i would want in a million years

Haystack - 11 Jul 2016 12:59 - 4416 of 12628

At least we won't have the liar Leadsom as PM. It was interesting that May produced 4 years of tax details, but Leadsom would not produce more than one. She has been avoiding tax through offshore tax even in the one she showed. Looking like there was more similar or worse in the missing three years. He brother-in-law runs an offshore company that she was a director of until a year ago. Perhaps this has to do with her backing down.

If a potential PM cannot stand the press onslaught over the recent days then she doesn't have what it takes for the job. I think we have had a narrow escape with Leadsom.

ExecLine - 11 Jul 2016 14:32 - 4417 of 12628

Haystack

What an utterley biased and garbage post you have done in post 4416.

1. Leadsom is not a liar.
2. There are probably a multitude of reasons why Leadsom did not produce tax details. Setting a precedence for others having to do so, being just one of them.
3. i. There is absolutely nothing wrong with tax avoidance. I too am a tax avoider. I use the Government's own HMRC Personal Allowance against my gross income, so as to avoid that part of my income from being taxed. So do you. So does everyone else.
3.ii. There is absolutely nothing wrong with one having an involvement in off-shore companies either. Indeed, I myself am involved with several off shore companies by the inclusion of the stock of lots of foreign companies in my investment portfolio. I'm sure lots of people are.
4. Perhaps this, perhaps that, perhaps the other. Perhaps you yourself are now an inactive thief, having acquired your own wealth and riches somewhat dishonestly in your previous life and are now a reformed criminal. Or perhaps you aren't a reformed criminal? Perhaps you are a transvestite? Or maybe even a paedophile? Lots of us on here don't know anything at all about you. Using a 'knickname' to post up on here must surely mean that you have something to hide? I wonder how serious your past crimes were? Hmmm?

Would you please 'clean up your postings' for us? The current 'implications' in your posts almost amount to attempts at potential brainwashing us all into believing your crap.

Fred1new - 11 Jul 2016 14:42 - 4418 of 12628

Setting out plans to change the way big businesses are governed, Mrs May said consumers and workers should have places on their boards.
She also committed to making shareholder votes on corporate pay binding, rather than merely advisory, insisting that support for enterprise does not mean "anything goes" in the City.

'Privileged few'
Outlining her plans to reform corporate governance, she hit out at the way non-executive directors who are supposed to provide oversight of the way firms are run often come from the same "narrow social and professional circles" as the executive team and "the scrutiny they provide is just not good enough".
She said: "So if I'm prime minister, we're going to change that system - and we're going to have not just consumers represented on company boards, but workers as well."
She also promised to strengthen "say on pay" rules, giving shareholders more influence over how much executives are paid.........



Perhaps, she should stand for the leadership of the Labour Party, as she is standing up for the well known lefty Ed Miliband proposals and policies.

What a bunch.

Friends in the EU are laughing at the antics of politic politicians and wishing them well and goodbye.


MaxK - 11 Jul 2016 14:51 - 4419 of 12628

Please wait, Haystack is being re-programmed


Fred1new - 11 Jul 2016 15:01 - 4420 of 12628

Needs to change the operating system first.

His CPU has been blown.

grannyboy - 11 Jul 2016 15:16 - 4421 of 12628

Mays promises are as watertight as Camerons were, and cameron made enough
and broke 99% of them and she's already failed in her home office role.

VICTIM - 11 Jul 2016 15:42 - 4422 of 12628

Hopefully it has ended on decent terms , and we can get some leavers in the cabinet or it won't look very good . May must realise she has to have leavers in there . I'm saying this more in hope than anything else .

Haystack - 11 Jul 2016 15:56 - 4423 of 12628

All the Leavers have failed to remain.

Haystack - 11 Jul 2016 16:02 - 4424 of 12628

Cameron to do last PMQs on Wednesday and then go to see Queen.

New PM by Wednesday night.

The right one won and the much, much weaker one lost.

cynic - 11 Jul 2016 16:04 - 4425 of 12628

flash from bbc news
TM to be declared PM within 48 hours

iturama - 11 Jul 2016 16:30 - 4426 of 12628

I didn't think it was possible to find someone in the Libdems as cringworthy as old Nick. But I must admit wee Tim Farron takes the biscuit. He's on TV with those owl like eyes pleading for a general election.
Is he not aware that it was the Libdems, old Nick himself, that sponsored the Fixed- term Parliaments Act of 2011? That means no election until 2020. Period.
Of course he knows it, but the average TV reporter is too thick to remind him of it.

iturama - 11 Jul 2016 17:16 - 4427 of 12628

Nick Clegg wrote an interesting column for the Evening Standard about the referendum result. You will not be surprised that he’s not altogether happy about the outcome. But what’s especially interesting is his insistence that:

‘…there will have to be a general election shortly after the new Conservative leader is elected. The country did not elect a Brexit government last year. The millions of voters who gave David Cameron the benefit of the doubt did so, above all, because they were worried what would happen to the economy if Ed Miliband and Alex Salmond were in charge… And when we vote in that general election, the key question will be this: do we agree or not to the terms of our exit from the EU? Since the Brexiters refused to give us any clue before last week’s referendum, they should be given the opportunity to put their plans to the British people.’
Now, the man who gave us fixed term parliaments which MPs will have to pass a law to do away with in order to hold a referendum in November was, of course, Nick Clegg. It was part of the deal for establishing a coalition government.
The act included two provisions for dissolving parliament early: one, a vote of no confidence in the government; the other, a decision by two thirds of MPs to agree to an emergency election.
In introducing the bill Mr Clegg said; ‘by setting the date that parliament will dissolve, our prime minister is giving up the right to pick and choose the date of the next general election—that’s a true first in British politics’. Oh dear. It seems less of a game changer now.
But of course at the time it was thought of as a way of the Libdems holding onto power in the coalition for the longest time possible. Well you were hoisted by your own petard Nick. You would do well in the EU

cynic - 11 Jul 2016 17:21 - 4428 of 12628

in any case, even under the old system, i don't think there was any need for a new GE unless there was a vote of no confidence carried in parliament

grannyboy - 11 Jul 2016 17:32 - 4429 of 12628

I know i shouldn't be encouraging it, and in all probability it will be against
the anti- bullying lobby's agenda....But i can't be the only one who would like
to give that Timmy Farron a good slapping...

Everytime he speaks his head goes down to one side and his weasle eyes dart
about looking to see if anyone's watching him, giving his body language the tell
tale sign he has something to hide.....

cynic - 11 Jul 2016 17:39 - 4430 of 12628

no idea what he even looks like

ExecLine - 11 Jul 2016 17:51 - 4431 of 12628

Well, as a supporter of my local MP, Andrea Leadsom, I'm also a big supporter of Theresa May, and have been for quite a number of minutes.

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