Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Please wait, Haystack is being re-programmed

Needs to change the operating system first.

His CPU has been blown.

Mays promises are as watertight as Camerons were, and cameron made enough
and broke 99% of them and she's already failed in her home office role.

Hopefully it has ended on decent terms , and we can get some leavers in the cabinet or it won't look very good . May must realise she has to have leavers in there . I'm saying this more in hope than anything else .

All the Leavers have failed to remain.

Cameron to do last PMQs on Wednesday and then go to see Queen.

New PM by Wednesday night.

The right one won and the much, much weaker one lost.

flash from bbc news
TM to be declared PM within 48 hours

I didn't think it was possible to find someone in the Libdems as cringworthy as old Nick. But I must admit wee Tim Farron takes the biscuit. He's on TV with those owl like eyes pleading for a general election.
Is he not aware that it was the Libdems, old Nick himself, that sponsored the Fixed- term Parliaments Act of 2011? That means no election until 2020. Period.
Of course he knows it, but the average TV reporter is too thick to remind him of it.

Nick Clegg wrote an interesting column for the Evening Standard about the referendum result. You will not be surprised that he’s not altogether happy about the outcome. But what’s especially interesting is his insistence that:

‘…there will have to be a general election shortly after the new Conservative leader is elected. The country did not elect a Brexit government last year. The millions of voters who gave David Cameron the benefit of the doubt did so, above all, because they were worried what would happen to the economy if Ed Miliband and Alex Salmond were in charge… And when we vote in that general election, the key question will be this: do we agree or not to the terms of our exit from the EU? Since the Brexiters refused to give us any clue before last week’s referendum, they should be given the opportunity to put their plans to the British people.’
Now, the man who gave us fixed term parliaments which MPs will have to pass a law to do away with in order to hold a referendum in November was, of course, Nick Clegg. It was part of the deal for establishing a coalition government.
The act included two provisions for dissolving parliament early: one, a vote of no confidence in the government; the other, a decision by two thirds of MPs to agree to an emergency election.
In introducing the bill Mr Clegg said; ‘by setting the date that parliament will dissolve, our prime minister is giving up the right to pick and choose the date of the next general election—that’s a true first in British politics’. Oh dear. It seems less of a game changer now.
But of course at the time it was thought of as a way of the Libdems holding onto power in the coalition for the longest time possible. Well you were hoisted by your own petard Nick. You would do well in the EU

in any case, even under the old system, i don't think there was any need for a new GE unless there was a vote of no confidence carried in parliament

I know i shouldn't be encouraging it, and in all probability it will be against
the anti- bullying lobby's agenda....But i can't be the only one who would like
to give that Timmy Farron a good slapping...

Everytime he speaks his head goes down to one side and his weasle eyes dart
about looking to see if anyone's watching him, giving his body language the tell
tale sign he has something to hide.....

no idea what he even looks like

Well, as a supporter of my local MP, Andrea Leadsom, I'm also a big supporter of Theresa May, and have been for quite a number of minutes.

chuckle ..... what's TM done to impress you?

She won, that's impressive and Leadsom wimped. Luckily she never had to face Putin or a crisis.

Well what a good day to be at the Palace of Westminster.

The news broke whilst we were in the Commons chamber and a palpable buzz went through the place.

Spotted a number of Conservative MPs looking very pleased with themselves.

A middle aged lady I was chatting to was wondering if she would still have to vote on the Leader now. She was a member of the Conservative Party. I said probably not, she gave me a slightly startled look when I told her I was a member of the Labour Party and was still hoping to get a vote for Labour leader.

Leadsom backed out, I understand, because she could not get enough support from Conservative MPs.

How quaint, how archaic. What we need is a new type of politics where Party leaders are actively hated by their colleagues. Roll on the vote for Labour's leader.

There's no codger like an old codger.

There is no end to it all. Owen Smith is going to stand for Lab leader. That could split the anti-Corbyn vote if Corbyn is allowed on the ballot. Are they all mad?

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There aren't many things that'll get one back to London unexpectedly. Listening to Cameron resigning is right up there though.

— Elizabeth Windsor (@Queen_UK) 11 July 2016