Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Baroness Warsi turns on 'public school' Tories



Former minister addresses conflict between party funding and Cameron's inaction on Gaza




Oliver Wright

WHITEHALL EDITOR


Sunday 10 August 2014


Britain's first Muslim cabinet minister launches a scathing attack today on the "public school" Tories around David Cameron who have dismissed her for years as "a brown, working-class woman not good enough" to serve in government.

In her first newspaper interview since resigning over Britain's "morally indefensible" stance on Gaza, Baroness Warsi also turns on George Osborne and Michael Gove for failing to use their "very, very close" relationship with the Israeli leadership to push for an end to the conflict. And she warns that the "electoral reality" is that the Conservatives will not win a majority at the next election unless the party starts attracting more ethnic minority voters. "We've probably left it a little too late to take this part of the electorate seriously," she says.



More: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/baroness-warsi-turns-on-public-school-tories-9659495.html

because iran and syria and no doubt a few others would be hollering and cheering at the thought of a weakened israel, and thus encourage them and their embedded fundamentalist cliques to be even more aggressive within the region.
peace in the region is the last thing they want.


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Um,

Are they anymore fundamentalist than the present Israeli government preyed upon by the Zionists?

What are the stimuli which lead individuals to extremist beliefs and their subsequent actions?

How do you counter them?

Well, it takes two to tango Fred ... whats your solution?

no, i don't think syria or iran etc are especially fundamentalist as they stand, but i'm sure that they, like saudi, are very much afraid of the current trend and manifestations, the latter being most obvious through al qaeda and now isis

israel, i think, has an intrinsic problem through its ridiculous knesset representation system, resulting in no less than 13 parties currently holding seats.
of these 13, there are certainly some which are hard-line right (don't ask me which) and on whom likud - already right wing though proven to be pragmatic when necessary - is reliant to stay in power

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i confess i have no idea at all how one counters fundamentalism (in its broadest sense) nor quite what persuades some to join its causes

however, is it any different from the millions who were persuaded to support the fascist/nazi parties in the 1930s, or to embrace the communist ideology in the early 20th century?
assuredly there are any number of other "nasties" that have appeared and thankfully and ultimately disappeared throughout the ages


enough rattling from me

"The next thing I would like to see our government do is to fight ISIS with 'as much as we can muster and a lot more besides' and try to destroy it."........ends

Well said exec, I dont always agree with you but lets bury the hatchet. I offer you a virtual hand shake, please accept it.

Lifes too short to hold a grudge and the truth is I cant hold a grudge more than 24 hours (unless its that numpty cockney rebel on advfn).

You are right this scum ISIS wants wiping out. I darent post the photos I have seen on Twitter here, the sad fact is that up to 1,000 are so called Britains.

A father holding his 4 year old daughter in his harms crying and she as no head on, and he cant find it. He say "how can I bury her she is not complete".

Totaly sick.

We should have moved in a lot earlier.

boots on the ground?
i don't think so

wipe out their leadership?
a possible line of attack, either via drones or SAS or Mossad perhaps

but i wonder how much of a "medusa" we have here

Bomb the sh-t out of them I say, and find out their supply line and cut it off. Cut thier funding.

Cynic have you seen those photos of be-heading, its grusome.

The SAS are already there.

44816 - no i haven't

how do you propose to cut off their funding?

Hey, Fishfinger, I know you like your Twitter pics. Worrabout this one of Stuey?

Ouch!

Hilary, yep what a corker, had one of those myself playing for Broad Oak my local team at the time.

When the swelling comes down its really nowt. Normally you have blackned eyes.

Can you remember Mike Gattings snowser, that was far worse. hes got permanent damage.

Cyners I dont know whos funding them, Max the other night asked the same question.

Lets find out who is and then cut it off. Without funds in time they will be useless.

500 burried alive...............SICK.

Corker of a photo, TANKER would love this.........

This week's most unfortunate picture:

he he ha ha LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL .

That photographer will be worth a mint if he gets copyright.

i think you'll find isis is very well funded from all sorts of places, not least (i think) from saudi though not the royal family who may in fact be getting rather nervous

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on a totally different issue ......
very interesting to see that the amis are going to try to crack down on multinationals moving their income to friendlier climes

so why isn't uk - and no need to try scoring party political points - where it has been happening for a great many years?

Not so bothered Cyners with the big boys, its individuals who are cheating who get on my t-ts. These so called Simon Cowel celebrities especialy.

Why would saudi fund them cyners?

They're all Sunni's together.

44826 - what's the difference?