Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Don't fancy the chances of Zimbabweans any more than Venezuelans.

The Spectator an a competition for the most offensive poem about the Turish President. Boris won the prize of £1,000 with

“There was a young fellow from Ankara, Who was a terrific wankerer.

“Till he sowed his wild oats, With the help of a goat,

But he didn’t even stop to thankera.”

The David Davis Brexit Blueprint


Britain would start the process of leaving the European Union by the end of this year, after consulting with administrations in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland and other business groups and unions
Britain to leave the European Union finally by December 2018
UK should seek to strike a deal with the EU based on a “liberalised” existing trade arrangement with Canada to eliminate all customs duties and not allow uncontrolled immigration into the UK
Britain should seek new free trade agreements with “the biggest prospective markets as fast as possible”
The UK should “accelerate” the agreement of the controversial Trans-Atlantic Trade and Investment Partnership deal with the US
Britain should prioritise trade deals with the rest of the world focusing initially on China, USA, Canada and Hong Kong then others like Australia, Brazil, India, South Korea, Japan, Mexico and South Africa
Britain should start to wean itself off grants from Brussels well before the UK finally severs its links to the EU and instead pay grants directly to farmers and fishermen

It seems May has played this very well. She has appointed the 'Three Brexiteers' to do the Brexit work. Basically, "you caused it, then fix it". If they come back and say we can't get an EU deal without some type of free movement then she is home clear. She has appointed Leavers and they will get the blame. She doesn't have the time to do it, so has organised her alibis in advance. If the Leavers can't get a non free movement deal then we may have to take what there is.

MILITARY COUP UNDERWAY IN tURKEY

What a defeatist way of looking at things Haystack ,how about they get the job done ? you really think the EU has us over a barrel ,well it does not .
Some years from now the UK will be strong and out of the EU and what's more the EU is crumbling ,i believe it won't exist in it's current form 10 years from now.
You really have faith in your Tory party don't you.

Sometthings gong on


http://www.breakingnews.com/topic/turkey/

Just as well we have a world class Foreign Secretary. He’ll be looking up what rhymes with ‘coup’. https://t.co/Ixv4nmm94N

— Rory Bremner (@rorybremner) 15 July 2016

Boris Hays, booed by the French, in my book that is a result!!

I see Anna Soubry has gone jimmy .

Best news i've heard all week VIC ,that loud mouthed drunk .

Wicked witch gone :-)


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/15/anna-soubry-sacked-as-theresa-may-carries-out-evening-reshuffle/

Any mention about what happened up in Scotland ?....it seems other news has inevitably put TM's visit in the shadow......

It looks like the coup in Turkey has failed unfortunately. Turkey needed a coup to get rid of Erdogan. He is ruling very mcuh like a dictator. There will be another coup or someone will hopefully assassinate him.

It turns out that when Boris was booed at the French Embassy, it was about three Brits doing the booing and not the French who were applauding and cheering.

The events in France will inevitably lead to the further rise in France of the extreme right : they will end up holding power of some sort within the French government, and rightly so as it seems there are great problems with differences between French people and the growing arab/muslim community over there.....

This is why the UK has turned away form the EU....it has to be said that it has not turned its back on Europe in forms of cooperating/trading and Nato membership : do we want all these godforsaken people from unfortunate/desolate it has to be said countries arriving in our townships ? : NO is the answer.....Britain is basically what it should be : British.....we already have more than our fair share of overseas people,...it sounds tough, but those people are big..big trouble....

Soon other countries will hold referendums perhaps : Sweden, Denmark, and the Netherlands are all considering this realising that the EU as it is will end in disaster and that salvation is in departure from from what the French might describe as "la merde quoi" !......

The border police seem to be doing their job at the moment. I wonder if May has given them a kick.

My wife was having her nails done yesterday in North London. Border Police came in and asked for documents from all the workers. They had a tablet with connection to the Home Office. They compared photos from the HO with the staff. One woman was here on a student visa which had not been renewed. They read her rights to her. She said, "do I have to come with you?". They replied, "Yes, you are under arrest and will be deported".

The Border Police then went into the next business and were working their way down the High Street.

They might do well do go round the back and wait for sudden departures....