Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Big gap in favour of no. There is now a strong demand for an England only parliament in exchange for Scotland getting new powers. That will be with no Scottish MPs in our parliament. That, of course, means 41 less Labour MPs, 11 Liberal MPs and 6 SNP MPs. That's pretty much a regular Conservative majority.

RESULT!!!

not sure if that would be so .... i interpreted as meaning that scottish mp's could only vote on issues affecting the whole union .... or put another way, they would be excluded from those issues over which the "new" scotland had independent control in scotland (i think that makes sense)

Cameron has said this morning that the new powers for Scotland have to be done in the same timetable as changes to our parliament. The news powers are extensive and include income tax, NHS etc. That could means Labour having no influence on major decisions.

Unravel, the complications of false promises!

My guess, if there is a referendum on EU as PROMISED by Wavey Dave the result will be similar!

The divil will be in the details....and I bet there will be a few nasty's lurking beneath the surface.

Crushing defeat for Salmond. Only 4 out of 32 councils voted yes. Some areas were 2 to 1 against yes.

Learnt last night just one vote either way out of those millions would have given a result.

in all seriousness, what we do NOT want in england, is any gov't with a crushing majority that will be (far too) difficult to overturn

HAYS .....you do talk clap trap.

The result was fantastic for labour before the GE.

Lets face it, Gordon Brown as saved Camorons bacon.

Manuel,

At last another glimmer of sense from you.

After that you need a lie down.


8-)

In all honesty would you trust Cameron to do anything which he doesn't think is in his own interest, ie. would you trust his "words"!

GF,

I think the Scottish result will help the Labour party in the GE, but this cartoon says a lot.



I wonder what Brown was really thinking!

The 'English question' answered: Scottish MPs to be barred from voting on English laws

Scottish MPs will be prevented from voting on issues only affecting England as part of the post-Scottish referendum reforms, David Cameron announces




By Peter Dominiczak

8:55AM BST 19 Sep 2014





Scottish independence: referendum results - live »


David Cameron has announced that he will fast-track proposals to prevent Scottish MPs voting on English-only issues in the wake of the independence referendum.


The Prime Minister said that he will provide a “decisive answer” to the so-called “West Lothian Question” by the time of the next election.


However, Douglas Alexander, a shadow Labour minister, immediately hit out at the plans.


Labour has 40 Scottish MPs and any move to prevent them voting in Parliament on a series of devolved issues would severely impact the party’s ability to block or pass laws in future.



Mr Cameron also suggested that similar proposals would in future apply to Welsh and Northern Irish MPs.



more: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scottish-independence/11108046/The-English-question-answered-Scottish-MPs-to-be-barred-from-voting-on-English-laws.html

David Cameron has promised new powers for Scotland as 55% of the country voted to reject independence in a historic referendum.

However, he warned that it was now time for the "millions of voices of England must be heard".

But he unveiled a substantial shake-up of powers for the whole of the UK suggesting new powers for Wales and Northern Ireland and greater influence for England's MPs over English law.

He said work would start on a "full and fair settlement for all of the UK" in what appeared to be a shift towards a more federalist UK and that plans would be drawn up by the Leader of the House of Commons William Hague.

Update - Labour lead at 2
by YouGov in Politics
Fri September 19, 2014 6 a.m. BST

Latest YouGov / The Sun results 18th Sept - Con 33%, Lab 35%, LD 8%, UKIP 14%;

Polling report now showing only 16 Labour majority!

http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/

fred - as i wrote ANY gov't with a crushing majority etc etc ...... for democracy to work satisfactorily, it is imperative that there is room for strong and meaningful debate
just possibly, this may all bring about PR, though i have serious misgivings about that too

Fred up on Twitter the tory fans are saying how this result as made labour big favourites for next years GE.

Seems only Hays in the whole world cant see that.

Poor lad.

The Swiss model would be the answer, but tptb wouldn't like it.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voting_in_Switzerland