Will this increase or decrease the likelihood of terrorist actions in America, Europe and the rest of the world?

If you were a member of a family murdered in this conflict, would you be seeking revenge?

Should Tzipi Livni and Ehud Olmert, be tried for war crimes if or when this conflict comes to an end?

What will the price of oil be in 4 weeks time?

All these bloody dogooders and noone gives a damn as to what rockets pour down on southern Israel.

Haystack-you reaklly are so fixated in your views that one cannot have a reasonable discussion with you.

there is no point,but for you to say that settlers kill settlers is the most outrageous statement I have ever heard.

You obviously have no idea about anything Jewish and the sanctity of life.

Israel will respond to Gaza rockets and terrorist attacks as and when. Israel will respond-it will never be the first.

Looka at the news in Libya and plainly you can see the type of person Israel has to deal with.

Egypt has already said they will maintain the peace agreement. Under no circumstances do they want control of Gaza. In fact they have a blockade in place on their eastern border-or have you forgotten this fact??

Since when do facts interfere with the parrot's "opinion" ?

You mean rockets pouring down on illegally occupied territory. The increased rocket attacks are a response to Israel shelling Gaza and hitting it with air strikes killing children as they did a couple of days ago. As usual Israel makes disproportionate responses. All Israel will get is further attacks and bombs in response. You have to remember in all this Israel is the oppressor and the one illegally occupying Palestinians land.

Egypt are changing their stance day by day. The announcement of Egypt maintaining the peace treaty was a knee jerk response after Mubarak went. The later attitude is somewhat different.

Yesteday
Egyptian foreign minister Nabil al-Arabi has said ending the five-year siege on the Gaza Strip is a priority in Egypt.

The Palestinian ministry of foreign affairs and planning said in a press release Tuesday that it received a letter from the Egyptian FM praising bilateral relations between the two countries and confirming that ending the Israeli siege on the Gaza Strip and opening the Rafah border crossing are some of the country's priorities.

Tuesday
Egyptian Foreign Minister Nabil Al-Arabi said that a delegation from Hamas Movement is expected to visit the capital Cairo soon.

Hamas praised Arabi's positions demanding an end to the five-year economic blockade on the Gaza Strip.

A Jewish settler who clubbed a Palestinian child to death with a rifle butt was sentenced to six months' community service yesterday in a decision denounced as an outrage by human rights organisations.

The sentence handed down by the Jerusalem district court yesterday is especially suspect because it was determined by the same judge, Ruth Or, who acquitted Korman at his original trial after rejecting evidence from witnesses and the state pathologist.

That verdict was overturned by the supreme court, which convicted him of manslaughter and sent him back to the district court for sentencing.

yuff
What were you saying about the sanctity of life?

http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2010/10/15/settler-rabbi-celebrates-murder-of-palestinians/

Settler Rabbi: Celebrating Murder of Palestinians Great Mitzvah

On Tuesday evening a reconnaissance drone from Israel was sent to fire missiles at the Al-Shajaa'iyya community east of Gaza city. The blasts killed three children, an elderly man and injured dozens.

A few hours later, a separate airstrike killed four people in the Al-Zaytoun district.

So a Hamas funded Al Mezan provides your latest "facts", huh, parrot?
Do you know what a parrot does? It repeats whatever it hears.
Parrot in name, parrot in deed.
Go on then, go and slice the throat of babies in their cots, parrot. Big man, huh?

I haven't noticed the parrot screaming about repressive Arab regimes (or Iran) slaughtering their own people, or Chinese repression or any other hideous things going on in the world.
Nor any criticism of Hamas or Hizbollah, whatever atrocities they commit.
No, just his totally one sided attitude against Israel.
That's why the parrot is a raging rabid anti-semite.

Do you know what Israel does to Gaza on a daily basis? Because building materials are not allowed to be imported into Gaza, people have to gather gravel and stones for construction. They do this on the edge of Gaza city. If they come too close to the border then they are shot. They are still in Gaza and Israel shoots them over the border. This happens every couple of days. Dozens have died in this way. Gaza fishermen are fired on day after day injuring and killing several each week. Some rockets may be fired across the border from Gaza rarely hurting anyone. Israel mounts air strikes and fires artillery across the border killing families of Palestinians almost every time.

Do you also remember the Gaza pensioner who was shot in his bed a few weeks ago while he slept because the Israeli soldiers had the wrong house. They had only come to arrest someone, so why did they fire at a sleeping man?

Why would I complain about other regimes? This thread is about Israel and Gaza.

Good to see that Egypt is getting on board the anti-Israel movement now.

The Egyptian Foreign Minister, Nabil al-Arabi has discussed with JosLuis Moreno Ocampo, the Prosecutor of the International Criminal Court (ICC), the possibility that the ICC listens to Palestinian demands that the court investigates the crimes and violations committed by the occupation against the Palestinian people in the occupied territories.

Ambassador Menha Bakhoum, spokeswoman for the Foreign Ministry said that activating the role of the court in ensuring no impunity for the perpetrators of those crimes, was discussed during the meeting which took place on Thursday.

Observers believe that the Egyptian Foreign Minister wanted to put pressure on Israel in light of suspicions that the Israeli occupation is planning a new aggression against Gaza.

Rubbish. Sloganeering propaganda lapped up by the parrot.
Hamas approaches the border to launch mortars. They know if they get into the free fire zone they are liable to be shot. Ordinary non-militant Gazans don't go there because they know that.
Same with fishermen, get into the free fire zone and you're asking for trouble as Hamas has frequently landed terrorists from fishing boats who have slaughtered Israeli families.
That's why they have free fire zones so that non-militant Gazans know not to go there.
They try to stop building materials getting in because they are used to build tunnels to smuggle weapons in from Egypt. My personal view is that that is wrong and building materials should not be embargoed.
I look at what happens objectively, unlike the parrot, and am prepared to voice my disagreement with SOME Israeli government policies, but many I agree with.
The Israelis do NOT occupy Gaza however often you say it. They left long ago.
You keep repeating the same lies like your hero, Goebbels, don't you parrot.
No don't answer, it's a rhetorical question. In your own words you refuse to be objective !
The pensioner killed. Terrible, I condemn it. I would think it was accidental or could have been careless. Still not in the same league as what they did to the Fogel family actually literally butchering them in their beds.

By the way, did you know your beloved terrorists actually sawed off the head of baby Fogel, aged three months?
And did you know there was celebrating in the streets in some villages and towns about that slaughter. Just like they celebrated after 9/11.
Is it surprising the Israelis build a wall to try and keep the bombers and butchers out?
Actually that particular butchery probably made you smile and think the settlement wasn't right (with which I agree) so the baby, siblings and parent "deserved" to be slaughtered.

That's the way the nazi mind works, doesn't it, parrot?

I suppose it is similar to the way settlers celebrate when Palestnians are killed.

It is interesting that settlers are allowed automatic weapons and get protection from the Israeli Occupation Forces even when burning Palestinians crops and attacking villages in the West Bank. The Palestinians get no arms to defend themselves of course. I guess the cowardly ILLEGAL settlers prefer sitting targets especially when they are unarmed.

http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/patrick-cockburn-israel-may-have-squandered-its-last-best-chance-for-peace-2252292.html

Trouble coming Israel's way!

From today.

"No wonder the Israeli establishment was aghast as it watched Mubarak being gradually forced from power. Israeli leaders bad-mouthed Barack Obama for not supporting the Egyptian leader more effectively."

"The Jerusalem bombing and the increased violence in Gaza are not in themselves going to produce a new crisis, but they are a reminder that the Israeli-Palestinian struggle remains at the centre of Middle East politics. So far, there is no sign that Israeli leaders have much idea about how to cope with the swirling political currents that are reshaping the region in which they live. Amid all the optimism about the spread of democracy the, struggle retains its capacity to return the region to conflict and war."

Do you know that an Asian worker is suspected of the murder of the Fogel settler family. Mr. Fogel refused to pay 10,000 shekels in wages which he owed an Asian worker he hired. The worker threatened to kill the settler and his family.

The worker is suspected of committing the crime after midnight Friday using a knife then fleeing the scene. Israeli army knows of the information leading to the suspect but refuse to announce or deal with it.

The story of Palestinians celebrating and handing out sweets came from Fox News. The story has been contradicted even by Israeli charities.

It looks increasingly like people may have been too quick to condemn. I have only seen Palestinians condemning the killings.

It doesn't sound like the type of thing Palestinians would do anyway.

They have done it before !
Of course that does not prove they did it this time. We shall see, I have no special knowledge. If a Palestinian is convicted of the crime no doubt the parrot will say the evidence was concocted against him LOL. If someone else is convicted then so be it. Like British courts, Israeli courts usually get it right but by no means all the time.


The killings were condemned by the PA Prime Minister. Fayyad is a man of peace, not violence and hatred like the parrot and his Hamas friends.
Fayyad is pursuing a state by political and diplomatic means and I for one - and very many other Israelis - hope he achieves that aim. Under his influence the West Bank economy grew by 8% last year.

Eventually peace between Israel and the Palestinians will come, though I don't see it under Netanyahu. It's a shame Livni didn't form the government. The extreme right (yes they are in all countries) backed Netanyahu although he received fewer votes.
One of Israel's problems is their pure system of proportional representation.

In the meantime, parrot, you can pray and scream and lie and want Israel destroyed all you want. It's not going to happen LOL

You should try understanding and tolerance and peace and objectivity, parrot.
Then maybe your views might have some validity.
Until then you are merely a joke, an ignorant, boring copy and paste joke.

Hays,

I don't want anti-Israeli forces or political pressure.

What I would like to see is honest ongoing negotiations for a peaceful and realistic settlements with cessation of the ongoing Israeli abuses.

What I would like is to see unbiased arbitration to get a decent settlement for all parties, but unfortunately the present Israeli leadership in unable to negotiate honestly or respectfully with the Palestinians.

Difficult, but I think the sand in the egg timer is running out for a peaceful lasting settlement.

"They have done it before !"

And settlers have killed Palestinians before as well. And settlers have killed other settlers as well.

There will be no peace between Israel and the Palestinians until Israel changes its attitude and rights some of the many wrongs done to Palestians.

Fayyad is not legally the Prime Minister anyway. The Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh is the legally elected Prime Minister. In 2007 President Mahmoud Abbas dismissed Haniyeh and appointed Fayyad as Prime Minster. This is not legally valid as Abbas has no such powers. The result is that now Palestine has two 'Prime Minsters', only one of whom is legally valid.

Abbas and Fayyad are quite a pair. Abbas is a president whose term in office expired several years ago (he was only made President as a temporary measure as part of the Oslo accord). Fayyad only received 2% of the vote and had to be 'appointed' illegally by Abbas.

Abbas is in power because George W. Bush and Condaleeza Rice told him to stay, even though his term in office had expired.

Fayyad, who ran in the January 2006 parliamentary election at the head of the Third Way list, won only two seats. His number two, Hanan Ashrawi, has since abandoned him, making him the head of a one-man party.

Abbas was forced to appoint Fayyad as prime minister only because of pressure from the Americans and Europeans, who threatened to suspend financial aid to the Palestinian Authority if the Palestinian president failed to comply.

Fayyad's government was never approved by the Palestinian parliament, known as the Palestinian Legislative Council, as required by the Palestinian Basic Law.

Any agreement Abbas and Fayyad bring back home will be seen by many Palestinians as the fruit of "extortion" and "threats" and not as the result of peace talks that were conducted in good faith.

Don't pin you hopes on Fayyad as he is a US puppet.

Ongoing bloodshed, other than drawing attention to the confrontation, is of no use to anyone.

I suspect that Hamas may be trying to up the stakes by goading Israel into violence (a very easy thing to do). The intention may be to focus the attention of other nearby countries more strongly onto Gaza. Not a bad strategy if it is true.

Not for the families who lose a relative.

But, sadly, it is all relative.