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Referendum : to be in Europe or not to be ?, that is the question ! (REF)     

required field - 03 Feb 2016 10:00

Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Fred1new - 25 Jul 2016 08:41 - 4715 of 12628

Through traffic transport across Europe.

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Mind there are compensations:

Besides the sale of UK Utilities to France.

(Tories business sense getting desperate about economic outlook.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/us-britain-eu-mergers-idUKKCN1040EA?feedType=nl&feedName=ukinnovation&utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=UK%20Daily%20Investor%202016-07-24&utm_term=UK%20Daily%20Investor%20Update


Overseas buyers lured by a plunge in the pound are looking to snare British companies on the cheap, ensuring a steady flow of deals since Britain voted to leave the European Union and defying expectations of an M&A drought.

Almost 60 transactions totalling $34.5 billion have been struck by foreign companies for British firms since June 23, according to Thomson Reuters data, compared with 79 deals amounting to $4.3 billion in the month leading up to the vote.

This activity - dominated by Japanese group SoftBank's (9984.T) $32 billion swoop for chip designer ARM Holdings (ARM.L) - has defied warnings that dealmaking could dry up for a period if Britain backed Brexit, given uncertainty surrounding risks to the economy and access to the EU single market.

The list of British takeovers could grow after the summer, according to bankers who say they are working on possible bids on behalf of foreign companies interested in UK targets.

The SoftBank deal was hailed by the government as a sign of UK economic resilience, prompting new Prime Minister Theresa May to declare the country "open for business".

But M&A bankers said some of the post-vote takeovers had more to do with the relatively low valuations of British companies given current exchange rates, rather than being driven by confidence in the British economy.

iturama - 25 Jul 2016 08:49 - 4716 of 12628

Just squelch him, job done, quoi!

MaxK - 25 Jul 2016 08:56 - 4717 of 12628

Obviously the tele news made a mistake last night..reporting Hammond in China getting inundated with trade offers with the UK outside the €uro-onion.


The Guardian aint saying much...surprise surprise.

MaxK - 25 Jul 2016 09:03 - 4718 of 12628

Basic, fundamental thinking required here...no chance!


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/07/24/mon-fears-new-ships-to-back-up-royal-navy-will-be-built-overseas/

Fred1new - 25 Jul 2016 09:05 - 4719 of 12628

Manuel,

When I read your posts, I recall more and more the following quote:

“A winner knows how much he still has to learn, even when he is considered an expert by others; a loser wants to be considered an expert by others before he has learned enough to know how little he knows.”

You and Dumbo fulfil the latter description.

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Max,

Perhaps, the ones outside the "union" are examining the books to plunder.

Perhaps, the UK may have to dance to a different tune.

VICTIM - 25 Jul 2016 09:08 - 4720 of 12628

There must be a word to describe you Freda , I'm going to look somewhere . Under miserable old git .

jimmy b - 25 Jul 2016 09:09 - 4721 of 12628

Fred i think i'm the only one that can read you ,give it a rest today with your childish drivel talk ,it sounds like you have had a tough weekend on the sauce .

Fred1new - 25 Jul 2016 09:09 - 4722 of 12628

Vicky.

Congratulations.

You made it through the weekend.

jimmy b - 25 Jul 2016 09:10 - 4723 of 12628

It's here VIC ...

MaxK - 25 Jul 2016 09:11 - 4724 of 12628

You might be right Fred...I have no doubt the vultures are gathering.

However, blighty is no chicken to be plucked at will, it has teeth with which to fight back.

What seems to be lacking is.. The will to do so!

Fred1new - 25 Jul 2016 09:26 - 4725 of 12628

Dumbo.

Post 4723.

Do you have that image above your bed every night?

You seem possessed by it.

jimmy b - 25 Jul 2016 09:42 - 4726 of 12628

No just when your spouting crap every day i think of that image.

Fred1new - 25 Jul 2016 10:11 - 4727 of 12628

Sounds obsessional to me.

cynic - 25 Jul 2016 10:15 - 4728 of 12628

fred is just deliberately contrary ...... i guess it gives him pleasure
unfortunately he posts so much dross that when he does post something interesting or even worth discussing, it just gets swamped

jimmy b - 25 Jul 2016 10:22 - 4729 of 12628

Deliberately contrary , i think your right .

cynic - 25 Jul 2016 10:42 - 4730 of 12628

for sure so ...... apart from his more fatuous comments (there's many), when did fred ever concur with anything that anyone else wrote?

VICTIM - 25 Jul 2016 10:43 - 4731 of 12628

Maybe it's his only outlet where he can express his beliefs .

cynic - 25 Jul 2016 11:08 - 4732 of 12628

questionable what he does actually believe, other than believing that he has an absolute democratic right not to vote and then to complain about everything thereafter

Fred1new - 25 Jul 2016 15:40 - 4733 of 12628

C+P

Dumbo, Manuel and Vicky,

I am able to recognise beliefs and bigotry and generally can distinguish them from informed and factual opinion.

Again, I am well use to critical self-analysis and even introspection and modify my opinions and actions in response to critical analysis and discussion.

Perhaps, the latter approach would be useful for yourselves, but I doubt you would give much validity to the opinion of others unless they coincide with your own.

Manuel,

If you read back to before some of my posts before the referendum you will see that I thought “out” vote simply put was a “dumb” vote, especially when one considered the probable difficulties and costs of negotiations and renegotiations of rules, laws, contracts, boundaries, responsibilities etc. made or agreed to, over the last 45years.

From your recent postings, you seem to be catching up and realising the consequences.

(Also, consider the costs of attempting to fortify little england to prevent the unknown numbers of immigrants wishing to enter the country. It is not appealing, but of course, you are welcome to your opinions.

(Hear they are starting to build smuggling tunnels between NI and SI ready for the exit, unless they devolve as a whole.)

Cameron, Hay’s and your messiah, did a wonderful job and foresaw what his political shenanigans would produce.

But why does the public have to pay his bills?

VICTIM - 25 Jul 2016 15:46 - 4734 of 12628

What esteemed company I keep , thank you jimmy and cynic .
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