Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

I don't know Miliband, but see him compared with the tory leadership at least trying to be honest.

And if I was in a hole I think he would be more likely to help dig me out and discuss how I had got into it, at later time.

Whereas I think Cameron, Farage and his ilk would ignore me and put it down as my fault and inadequacy and going to the wrong school.

But, of course Miliband would I expect more awareness of the concentration camps than the right winged elements in politics today would have more in common with the fascist of past generations.

The economics of screwing the Welfare states is not the sensible way out of a recession!

Blaming everybody else for your own failures is not a policy. (I am alright Jacks.)

Finger pointing the weak in a society is not amusing.

Scapegoating the weakest in society for one's own political benefit is the lowest form of politics.

I don't think Cameron will go for deals with UKIP. I saw him commenting on it earlier in the week. His line was that it would be difficult to do deals with UKIP as they did not know what they stood for. UKIP have no detailed policies. What policies they do have are not costed and some are downright mad.

Which policies are downright mad Haystack?

I think Farage has thrown Call Me Dave a lifeline, a virtual guarantee to be the next Prime Minister. (with a few strings)

However, if Cameroon turns it down...what conclusions can you draw from such a position?

It's another seven months until the GE, Max and there will be lots of twists and turns in that time. Cameron needs to get the message - it's not about the economy stupid, it's about immigration. That is the message that is coming from people who are voting UKIP.

Could be db4, must admit, the three stoogies are vying for position of dickhead of the year...look at this nonsense below:



Ukip is tapping into a seam of despair that Labour cannot and will not ignore

The opposition leader pledges to tackle immigration, invest in the NHS and pay a fair wage for hard work



Ed Miliband


The Observer, Saturday 11 October 2014 21.00 BST




When I became leader of the Labour party four years ago, I challenged us to defy precedent by being just a one-term opposition.

Today, I believe we can fulfil that ambition and earn the trust of the British people again. But I also know there is much work to be done to make this happen, work I am determined we will complete over the next seven months.

For all the Conservatives’ bravado and self-congratulation at their conference, the landslide defeat in Clacton and the collapse of their vote in Heywood and Middleton have shown how far David Cameron is from securing the majority they crave. Thursday’s byelections confirmed the discontent across a Britain deeply scarred by division and inequality between a privileged few and the struggles of working people from every walk of life. When the Tories insist that our country is on the right track or claim that there is no cost-of-living crisis, they just prove they are on the wrong side of the bulk of British people who know the recovery has not, for all the ministerial boasting, touched their lives.



The rest of the nonsense is here: http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/oct/11/ed-miliband-labour-hope-for-britains-future

There are a lot of different views about how many seats UKIP will get. If the actual figures are at the bottom end of the range then UKIP will be in no position to be in a coalition with anyone.

Haze,

From the number of U-turns Cameron has done in the last four years I would think him capable of licking his own or anybody else's arse to stay in power.

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But trusting Farage, or Cameron on any deal to made to be fulfill would offer odds that I might accept.

Bet over Doodlebug. You had your chance but not the balls.

NOW answer are you the poster on advfn known as Stigologist???????????????????????

Just keep telling Fred , that the British economy is the fasting growing economy in the EU, and is he going to vote Labour or spend most of his time posting on here how we would be better off under Labour if people [ but not him] voted for them

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/palestinian-statehood-ed-miliband-says-labour-mps-must-vote-to-recognise-palestine-or-stay-away-from-parliament-9789946.html

Ed Miliband was on a collision course on Sunday with the Board of Deputies, which speaks for Britain’s Jews, as he insisted that Labour MPs who are in Parliament on Monday must back a motion to recognise Palestine as an independent state.

Last week, Labour’s shadow foreign secretary, Douglas Alexander, announced that Labour was imposing a three line whip to get its MPs to back the motion – to the fury of pro-Israeli Labour MPs who accused him of changing party policy without consulting them.

well back home and see ukip up to 25% Clacton vote ukip does that make them RACIST no it tells you the whole country want immigration stopped and get all these
low paid un skilled migrants out of the uk . they pay no taxes use all the services
get free homes free council tax free nhs free schools and killing the uk

does this mean any one who votes to protect they country is a racist

if labour fails to become the largest party at the next election, and that is not even with a majority, then for once the tories will owe the (more militant) unions a HUGE vote of thanks ..... it is primarily thanks to them that labour has em as its figurehead (puppet?) rather than his brother

cynic I see you chose not to reply to my post

which one?

Boris Johnson calls for quotas on EU migrants

The Conservative Party must tighten up border controls to win back voters from Ukip, Mayor of London claims



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration/11157890/Boris-Johnson-calls-for-quotas-on-EU-migrants.html

well back home and see ukip up to 25% Clacton vote ukip does that make them RACIST no it tells you the whole country want immigration stopped and get all these
low paid un skilled migrants out of the uk . they pay no taxes use all the services
get free homes free council tax free nhs free schools and killing the uk

does this mean any one who votes to protect they country is a racist


this one cynic

boris is a dimwit of a clown

why does it require a response from me or anyone else?
it's merely a regurgitation of your usual inaccurate nonsense