This sums up much of my thinking - I hold a few and swing trade a few and even trade intraday sometimes ......

I think there is a lot of slack that management can cut out of the costs and would also anticipate sector consolidation ..... good value currently and have been holding their own in a falling market. Lot of US interest.

ains


Edited by Dominic White
(Filed: 08/02/2003)


Texting makes MmO2 sexy but it's also risky

More and more Britons are discovering the joys of textual intercourse. In the month of December, we fired off more than 50m mobile messages a day, and next Friday (that's Valentine's Day, folks, in case you'd forgotten) we'll send considerably more than that.



It emerged this week that the chief beneficiary of this craze is MmO2 . BT's former mobile phone division revealed that it gets a higher proportion of revenues from texting than any of the other three operators.

Revenue from messaging grew at its fastest rate ever in the last quarter, up 19pc, and data services as a proportion of MmO2 's revenue rose to 17.7pc from 15.6pc.

More good news was the rise in MmO2 's average revenues per customer. ARPUs, as nerdy analysts like to dub them, grew by 5pc to 243 in the UK and by 9pc in Germany to 212.

MmO2 now has 19.1m subscribers and in Britain it may be the smallest player, with 11.9m users, but it is growing faster than its rivals - testament to the success of its rebranding from BT Cellnet.

Only 114,000 of its 503,000 new UK subscribers were higher-spending contract customers, but MmO2 claims its pre-pay customers have started spending more than before.

Customer growth in Germany, which continues to be dominated by T-Mobile and Vodafone, is less impressive and the MmO2 share price ascribes little or no value to this part of the business.

That seems unfair, given the fact that the group has attracted higher-spending customers and has made a decent fist of turning the operation around. An eventual sale or merger is almost as inevitable as a disposal of the Dutch unit, which is losing customers.

MmO2 's larger rival Vodafone is trading on a free cashflow yield of 6pc, while at 49p this week, MmO2 's equivalent valuation remains negative. It might not have Vodafone's scale or profitability but there is room for upside. A risky buy.

Durlatcher has them as a trading 'dont care' as they say charts indicate a range of 52/59p aand no clear direction until they hit one of the guides .... looks okay to me and more than happy to hold

Thu 22 May 2003


LONDON (SHARECAST) - Telecoms company BT is to reveal a record 8bn black hole in its pension fund, reports the Guardian. Millions of pounds a year will have to be put away to safeguard retirement payments for more than 350,000 former staff.

Vodafone is expected to stand by the 14bn it has spent on third generation mobile licences next week, despite mmO2's to write-off 6 billion of similar investment, writes The Times.

The prospect of another rate cut increased yesterday when the Bank of England said its monetary policy committee had voted narrowly to keep rates on hold earlier this month, adds the Telegraph.

L2? BT did well, wish I got some, missed out. Did you offload this am or holding?

decided to hold - thought they might go through 2






Buy orders Sell orders
Num(%) Num Vol(%) Vol VWAP Vol Vol(%) Num Num(%)
1% (43.75%) 7 (76.30%) 2,170,632 56.08 - 57.28 674,370 (23.70%) 9 (56.25%)
5% (54.17%) 13 (84.96%) 4,020,632 55.84 - 57.31 711,970 (15.04%) 11 (45.83%)
10% (48.57%) 17 (81.27%) 4,256,357 55.78 - 57.84 980,790 (18.73%) 18 (51.43%)
15% (57.14%) 28 (73.72%) 5,392,236 55.01 - 59.76 1,922,369 (26.28%) 21 (42.86%)
50% (54.55%) 30 (73.69%) 5,597,236 54.83 - 59.95 1,998,061 (26.31%) 25 (45.45%)
100% (57.63%) 34 (73.78%) 5,622,256 54.75 - 59.95 1,998,061 (26.22%) 25 (42.37%)
all (56.67%) 34 (73.74%) 5,622,256 54.75 - 60.13 2,002,061 (26.26%) 26 (43.33%)

0-1% (43.75%) 7 (76.30%) 2,170,632 56.08 - 57.28 674,370 (23.70%) 9 (56.25%)
1-5% (75.00%) 6 (98.01%) 1,850,000 55.84 - 57.31 37,600 (1.99%) 2 (25.00%)
5-10% (36.36%) 4 (46.72%) 235,725 55.78 - 57.84 268,820 (53.28%) 7 (63.64%)
10-15% (78.57%) 11 (54.68%) 1,135,879 55.01 - 59.76 941,579 (45.32%) 3 (21.43%)
15-50% (33.33%) 2 (73.03%) 205,000 54.83 - 59.95 75,692 (26.97%) 4 (66.67%)
50-100% (100.00%) 4 (100.00%) 25,020 54.75 - 59.95 0 (0.00%) 0 (0.00%)
100%- (0.00%) 0 (0.00%) 0 54.75 - 60.13 4,000 (100.00%) 1 (100.00%)

L2? Why's this stubbonly not moving despite BT & VOD moving higher and a +ve US?
What did you get your BT at? I suppose you were fortunate enough to get at lows? It's ticked up again despite allowing me to get on board I again failed to buy it.

yes .... I bought low on BT - some less than 145p but average a bit higher


I think peeps are confused on oom and the write offs are seen as bad but they are factored in and the company looks more likely than ever to be a bid target.

Sector is up 1.27% - oom up 0.9%


ains





Buy orders Sell orders
Num(%) Num Vol(%) Vol VWAP Vol Vol(%) Num Num(%)
1% (58.06%) 18 (56.11%) 2,724,050 55.94 - 56.76 2,131,219 (43.89%) 13 (41.94%)
5% (55.00%) 22 (57.66%) 3,499,492 55.83 - 56.88 2,569,619 (42.34%) 18 (45.00%)
10% (50.94%) 27 (56.80%) 3,678,992 55.77 - 57.04 2,797,719 (43.20%) 26 (49.06%)
15% (54.41%) 37 (55.03%) 4,794,871 54.91 - 58.28 3,917,618 (44.97%) 31 (45.59%)
50% (56.34%) 40 (56.09%) 5,004,771 54.70 - 58.28 3,917,618 (43.91%) 31 (43.66%)
100% (55.13%) 43 (55.72%) 5,024,891 54.62 - 58.41 3,993,310 (44.28%) 35 (44.87%)
all (54.43%) 43 (55.69%) 5,024,891 54.62 - 58.50 3,997,310 (44.31%) 36 (45.57%)

0-1% (58.06%) 18 (56.11%) 2,724,050 55.94 - 56.76 2,131,219 (43.89%) 13 (41.94%)
1-5% (44.44%) 4 (63.88%) 775,442 55.83 - 56.88 438,400 (36.12%) 5 (55.56%)
5-10% (38.46%) 5 (44.04%) 179,500 55.77 - 57.04 228,100 (55.96%) 8 (61.54%)
10-15% (66.67%) 10 (49.91%) 1,115,879 54.91 - 58.28 1,119,899 (50.09%) 5 (33.33%)
15-50% (100.00%) 3 (100.00%) 209,900 54.70 - 58.28 0 (0.00%) 0 (0.00%)
50-100% (42.86%) 3 (21.00%) 20,120 54.62 - 58.41 75,692 (79.00%) 4 (57.14%)
100%- (0.00%) 0 (0.00%) 0 54.62 - 58.50 4,000 (100.00%) 1 (100.00%)

newmediazero, 21 May 2003

Battle commences for mobile traffic revenue
Justin Pearse
The next battle for the mobile content industry looks likely to be a struggle for a share of the standard traffic revenue generated when consumers start to interact with premium services.
Major content owners are generating increasingly large volumes of SMS traffic from consumers who want to interact with their brands, but at the moment all the revenue this generates is being kept by the mobile network operators.
Industry pundits believe the day will soon come when major content owners such as media and sports companies will exercise their power to demand a cut of traffic revenues.
'Call time has never been on the table but when organisations like UEFA flex their muscles, operators won't be able to keep it off the table,' said FT circulation and content sales manager Nigel Stockton.
Revenue share has for a long time been a contentious issue. Although operators do offer a share of premium SMS, content owners complain the percentage offered is too small. The huge volume of traffic being generated by content owners means this argument is spreading toward non-premium traffic.
'I think it'll have to move in that direction in time,' said Granada Sports and Interactive mobile manager Jane Crossley. 'With premium revenue share, awareness has picked up among operators that this has to be a collaborative process.'
Operators have to date firmly refused to countenance such a move. 'We don't do revenue share on traffic because we don't do revenue share on traffic,' summed up Vodafone Live! music business and content manager Edward Kershaw recently.
However Mike Short, VP O2 and chairman of the Mobile Data Association, was more positive. 'If there's as big a market with non-premium rates, we need to look at the sales incentives to suit,' he said.
But the increasing volumes that are generated by content owners mean that increasing pressure is now being applied.

L2 seems to have improved?

Buy orders Sell orders
Num(%) Num Vol(%) Vol VWAP Vol Vol(%) Num Num(%)
1% (48.57%) 17 (67.31%) 4,580,021 56.41 - 57.24 2,223,845 (32.69%) 18 (51.43%)
5% (54.00%) 27 (73.07%) 6,677,305 56.26 - 57.30 2,461,445 (26.93%) 23 (46.00%)
10% (52.24%) 35 (72.27%) 7,206,030 56.18 - 57.52 2,765,065 (27.73%) 32 (47.76%)
15% (57.32%) 47 (69.29%) 8,361,709 55.62 - 58.60 3,706,644 (30.71%) 35 (42.68%)
50% (55.68%) 49 (69.37%) 8,566,709 55.48 - 58.72 3,782,336 (30.63%) 39 (44.32%)
100% (57.61%) 53 (69.43%) 8,591,729 55.43 - 58.72 3,782,336 (30.57%) 39 (42.39%)
all (56.99%) 53 (69.41%) 8,591,729 55.43 - 58.82 3,786,336 (30.59%) 40 (43.01%

L2 strong still? Really would like this to close 58+ today. Would be really great!

there you go ..... all is well that ends well - outperforming sector now






Buy orders Sell orders
Num(%) Num Vol(%) Vol VWAP Vol Vol(%) Num Num(%)
1% (34.38%) 11 (51.00%) 2,199,652 57.00 - 57.66 2,113,188 (49.00%) 21 (65.63%)
5% (42.50%) 17 (61.87%) 3,489,283 56.76 - 57.67 2,149,988 (38.13%) 23 (57.50%)
10% (49.18%) 30 (71.51%) 6,069,322 56.37 - 57.87 2,418,108 (28.49%) 31 (50.82%)
15% (58.23%) 46 (68.50%) 7,304,201 55.68 - 58.95 3,358,387 (31.50%) 33 (41.77%)
50% (56.47%) 48 (68.62%) 7,509,201 55.52 - 59.09 3,434,079 (31.38%) 37 (43.53%)
100% (58.43%) 52 (68.69%) 7,534,221 55.46 - 59.09 3,434,079 (31.31%) 37 (41.57%)
all (57.78%) 52 (68.67%) 7,534,221 55.46 - 59.19 3,438,079 (31.33%) 38 (42.22%)

0-1% (34.38%) 11 (51.00%) 2,199,652 57.00 - 57.66 2,113,188 (49.00%) 21 (65.63%)
1-5% (75.00%) 6 (97.23%) 1,289,631 56.76 - 57.67 36,800 (2.77%) 2 (25.00%)
5-10% (61.90%) 13 (90.59%) 2,580,039 56.37 - 57.87 268,120 (9.41%) 8 (38.10%)
10-15% (88.89%) 16 (56.77%) 1,234,879 55.68 - 58.95 940,279 (43.23%) 2 (11.11%)
15-50% (33.33%) 2 (73.03%) 205,000 55.52 - 59.09 75,692 (26.97%) 4 (66.67%)
50-100% (100.00%) 4 (100.00%) 25,020 55.46 - 59.09 0 (0.00%) 0 (0.00%)
100%- (0.00%) 0 (0.00%) 0 55.46 - 59.19 4,000 (100.00%) 1 (100.00%)

L2 strong? Really wish I'd topped up/avg down yesterday. Would've been abs great!

Buy orders Sell orders
Num(%) Num Vol(%) Vol VWAP Vol Vol(%) Num Num(%)
1% (48.57%) 17 (75.03%) 4,547,594 57.08 - 57.72 1,513,257 (24.97%) 18 (51.43%)
5% (47.62%) 20 (70.06%) 5,481,868 56.96 - 57.96 2,342,699 (29.94%) 22 (52.38%)
10% (51.61%) 32 (75.49%) 8,040,557 56.61 - 58.11 2,610,819 (24.51%) 30 (48.39%)
15% (60.00%) 48 (72.31%) 9,275,436 56.03 - 59.08 3,551,098 (27.69%) 32 (40.00%)
50% (58.14%) 50 (72.33%) 9,480,436 55.90 - 59.20 3,626,790 (27.67%) 36 (41.86%)
100% (60.00%) 54 (72.38%) 9,505,456 55.85 - 59.20 3,626,790 (27.62%) 36 (40.00%)
all (59.34%) 54 (72.36%) 9,505,456 55.85 - 59.30 3,630,790 (27.64%) 37 (40.66%

L2 strong? +ve end on Wall Street - O2 perfoming well. Let's hope 60+ reached today.

Buy orders Sell orders
Num(%) Num Vol(%) Vol VWAP Vol Vol(%) Num Num(%)
1% (42.86%) 6 (64.07%) 1,767,500 58.75 - 59.41 991,149 (35.93%) 8 (57.14%)
5% (40.00%) 8 (63.79%) 2,245,704 58.62 - 59.55 1,274,749 (36.21%) 12 (60.00%)
10% (38.46%) 10 (68.62%) 2,920,634 58.33 - 59.61 1,335,749 (31.38%) 16 (61.54%)
15% (46.51%) 20 (58.87%) 3,427,834 57.89 - 61.06 2,394,614 (41.13%) 23 (53.49%)
50% (48.89%) 22 (64.55%) 4,361,007 56.84 - 61.06 2,394,614 (35.45%) 23 (51.11%)
100% (54.90%) 28 (65.72%) 4,591,027 56.43 - 61.06 2,394,614 (34.28%) 23 (45.10%)
all (53.85%) 28 (65.68%) 4,591,027 56.43 - 61.21 2,398,614 (34.32%) 24 (46.15%)

L2 weak? +ve start but now weakness after strength of Euro hits mkts. Still holding. I hope I have not made my usual mistake of not off loading this am. US Fut flat now.

Still looking okay - sector is up 1.41% - oom up 2.61% - market down 0.32% - intraday graph looks like they are trying for another go at 60p






Buy orders Sell orders
Num(%) Num Vol(%) Vol VWAP Vol Vol(%) Num Num(%)
1% (35.90%) 14 (59.39%) 3,990,882 58.77 - 59.52 2,728,619 (40.61%) 25 (64.10%)
5% (30.77%) 16 (46.02%) 4,469,086 58.71 - 59.75 5,242,219 (53.98%) 36 (69.23%)
10% (34.85%) 23 (49.86%) 5,315,616 58.49 - 59.78 5,345,819 (50.14%) 43 (65.15%)
15% (41.38%) 36 (46.93%) 5,795,816 58.23 - 60.34 6,554,684 (53.07%) 51 (58.62%)
50% (43.33%) 39 (50.71%) 6,743,140 57.49 - 60.34 6,554,684 (49.29%) 51 (56.67%)
100% (46.88%) 45 (51.55%) 6,973,160 57.20 - 60.34 6,554,684 (48.45%) 51 (53.13%)
all (46.39%) 45 (51.53%) 6,973,160 57.20 - 60.40 6,558,684 (48.47%) 52 (53.61%)

0-1% (35.90%) 14 (59.39%) 3,990,882 58.77 - 59.52 2,728,619 (40.61%) 25 (64.10%)
1-5% (15.38%) 2 (15.98%) 478,204 58.71 - 59.75 2,513,600 (84.02%) 11 (84.62%)
5-10% (50.00%) 7 (89.10%) 846,530 58.49 - 59.78 103,600 (10.90%) 7 (50.00%)
10-15% (61.90%) 13 (28.43%) 480,200 58.23 - 60.34 1,208,865 (71.57%) 8 (38.10%)
15-50% (100.00%) 3 (100.00%) 947,324 57.49 - 60.34 0 (0.00%) 0 (0.00%)
50-100% (100.00%) 6 (100.00%) 230,020 57.20 - 60.34 0 (0.00%) 0 (0.00%)
100%- (0.00%) 0 (0.00%) 0 57.20 - 60.40 4,000 (100.00%) 1 (100.00%)

Charles Stanley reiterates its buy rating for Vodafone

Huge volumes again and touching the 60p resistence ..... need news or market swing

ains



FT - Mobile phone company MMO2 continued to rally on the back of Wednesday's strong results, adding a further 3.9 per cent at 59.75p, a 12-month high. The unexpected reduction in MMO2's net debt to 549m was particularly warmly welcomed.

"There is a confidence about how the company is trading, cost-cutting and positive earnings momentum came together in the results," said Christian Maher at Investec Securities. "People expected to see net cash outflow, but they actually made progress in cutting net debt."

The 3G bubble is finally pricked M F in the S Telegraph
(Filed: 25/05/2003)


mm02 has written off a staggering 6bn of its investment in third generation mobile technology. Will Vodafone follow suit? Mary Fagan reports