Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

It'll be hard enough to limit legal migrants - but what about the million-plus ILLEGAL ones?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-3722733/It-ll-hard-limit-legal-migrants-million-plus-ILLEGAL-ones.html

Labour has its own honours problems.

Shami Chakrabarti did a whitewash job in her 'independent' report on Labour's anti-Semitism. Corbyn responded with a nomination to the Lords. Corbynistas were claiming that suggestions that Shami was being given a peerage were smears against Labour. That was until last night when it was confirmed. Now they say she deserved it anyway.

Sums up tory foresight.

I 'm amazed the Tories haven't called you up and got you on board as a consultant Freda , your wisdom and foresight are just what they need at the moment a floating voter type , sorry a floating person type .

The tories are too fractionated and egocentric to be helped.

They have been going to the dogs for years.

Back to the good old days.

Where does that leave Labour and the Limp dems then , they are flying aren't they .

The streaming lark is a good idea tho, you cant teach the same level to all.

Vicky,

At the moment Labour would appear to be in a mess.

Interesting to watch and see if Labour they will stop their schoolboy behaviour and sort out their future policies, which would be acceptable to the majority of voters.

Mind they still have time to do so and god knows what the mess the UK will be in after another 4years of tory failures and misrule. (Or how much has been purloined by them.)

A bit like in the con party, at the present time, the leadership of labour seem more interested in their own internecine behaviour than the future direction of the country as a whole.

Libs, unfortunately paying the penalties of trusting the con party and help in forming a coalition government. But, perhaps they have the inner strength from ground level organisation to produce acceptable policies for its future.


Interesting to watch.

Not a word I would use , interesting .

At the moment Labour would appear to be in a mess.

so when in fred's eyes would it be glaringly obvious???

When you are looking down from Mount Olympus, many things are of interest.

I am surprised that peasants like you find anything other than rapaciousness interesting.

But a good load of muck often produce good crops.

Your a pheasant plucker you aren't you Freda .

Time for Project Fear doom-monger Bank of England boss to sling his hook




By Leo McKinstry


PUBLISHED: 06:01, Mon, Aug 8, 2016 | UPDATED: 07:57, Mon, Aug 8, 2016




The wisdom of that statement seems to have been lost on his successor, the embattled Canadian Mark Carney.

During his three years at the helm in Threadneedle Street Carney has seen his authority continuously eroded by mistaken economic forecasts and misguided political interventions. It is a process that culminated this summer in his aggressive attacks on the case for Brexit during the Referendum campaign.

Now, in the aftermath of our heroic vote for freedom, he remains trapped in his cocoon of gloom. Having wilfully tried to foster a climate of anxiety over the British economy, he heightened the febrile mood last week with a scheme that seems likely to undermine consumer confidence and damage stability.




LORD King, the former Governor of the Bank of England, once said: “To retain credibility it is important that central banks don’t claim to know more than in fact they do.


More:http://www.express.co.uk/comment/columnists/leo-mckinstry/697471/Governors-Brexit-actions-mean-he-must-stand-down-says-Leo-McKinstry

I think he has been a brilliant Governor. The Express is a comic for idiots and racists and best avoided.

Brilliant?

Brilliant at what, getting forecasts wrong??

Ho dear....Haystack is under the impression that there is only one opinion,
and that opinion has to eminate from some smoke filled dank commitee
room filled with arrogant morons who believe they know whats best for us
plebs.

And if us plebs have different views and opinions from the ruling establishment,
in haystacks and his cronies eyes we're "all idiots and racist"..

And their bitterness at their figurehead, the snake oil salesman, cameron having
to resign after his disasterous and treacherous behaviour in the pre-Brexit 'reform'
negotiations and subsequent scaremongering...

personally i would have deemed corbyn to be the treacherous one, as he patently refused to back the wishes of his party

Cameron's mistake was having the referendum. Apart from that he was an excellent PM.