Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Manuel.

If the words are too long for you, get you mum to read it and then explain it to you.


PS.

I didn't write the article.

On the very rare occasion that Freda has a bath, he sings loudly ;-

I wear a g string and suspenders, occasionally crutchless knickers too!

They call me funny fella, that's right! They call me funny fella!!

Just ignore the obnoxious gobshite!

Chris

where you just passing through the corridor at the time?

LOL

No mentor I'm on holiday, just looking in occasionally, nothing seems to change. Fred talks shite the majority of the time, just seems to excel when his beloved Labour Party is imploding all around him but he is too thick to notice through choice :0)

There's a piece in the Telegraph apparently about the IMF , imf admits disastrous love affair with euro , apologies .

I have come across a word to describe people who voted to Remain and still complain about losing: 'Remoaners'

The media is as bad last week was a Brexit how much is your house worth , program . This is after the other Brexit make as much fuss as you can programs . I don't watch them by the way .

The snake oil salesman(cameron) seems to have excelled himself in his
'honours' list of 'remain' cronies.

If Mays got any sense of justice and morals she will block these corrupt 'honours'.

I'd ban it altogether for people who get paid to do their job and then get these honours .

Yes agree VICTIM, its an outrageous corrupt system..

It devalues the award for those that actually merit it. I have no problem with Sir Ian Botham for the charitable work he did after beating the Aussies, but I almost fell off my chair when I heard someone mention Sir Vince Cable. A man that was thrown out by his constituency in 2015 then rewarded for having been a lib dem. These are cheap throwaway awards that cost the giver nothing for having done nothing except what one is paid to do. Time for change!

Farage said he's rewarding failure but i think he's rewarding lies and scare stories that resulted in failure . It got peoples backs up . Must have been the most cringeworthy campaign in history .

the honours list was badly devalued a great many years ago, but certainly some of the present recipients are just ridiculous

The list looks pretty normal compared to the past. Even Harold Wilson gave an honour to the maker of his Gannex raincoat. Resignation honours are always a personal thing for PMs.

it doesn't mean that a number are undeserving
joseph kagan (gannex) ended up in clink for tax evasion, lost his knighthood but could not be removed from the peerage

Even Gordon Brown and Tony Bliar did not have a resignation honours list.

Brown did have his own list. Because it was a GE he has a dissolution list.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Dissolution_Honours

Blair did not have one because he was already involved in the 'cash for honours' scandal at the time where honours were being given to people who had lent money to Labour.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cash_for_Honours

surely peerages and the like have been handed out to buddies for at least 200 years

"surely peerages and the like have been handed out to buddies for at least 200 years"


Does that make the grubby action justifiable?

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Haze and standards (or morality),

"Blair did not have one because he was already involved in the 'cash for honours' scandal at the time where honours were being given to people who had lent money to Labour."


If done for money then it appears to me corrupt, but I find many of Dodgy Dave's actions questionable and see the list as showing the Puppets strings again were being pulled by the puppeteers living in strange lands.

Is party headquarter's (CCO) lobbying for a gong for you?

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I had better mind my Ps&Qs or I will never get my piece of gold.

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Of course. The list is a personal list of the PM's own choosing for whatever reason they might choose. It is similar to the Queen's personal honours for people who worked for her and people who gave assisted her. She hands out the Royal Victorian Order of varying degrees to people who have done a personal service for her. My father received it in 1954 after travelling with her for six months on a Commonwealth Tour.

Cameron's list will be scrutinised by an oversight committee as are all PM's honours.