Fred1new
- 06 Jan 2009 19:21
Will this increase or decrease the likelihood of terrorist actions in America, Europe and the rest of the world?
If you were a member of a family murdered in this conflict, would you be seeking revenge?
Should Tzipi Livni and Ehud Olmert, be tried for war crimes if or when this conflict comes to an end?
What will the price of oil be in 4 weeks time?
Haystack
- 12 Apr 2011 13:14
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I think it is you that lives in their own world. It seems to be a bitter and twisted world that you inhabit. I guess you meet your fellow fascists there. You ascribe all sorts of motives to other people with absolutely no evidence. Lucky you are not in any position of power. I think you would have risen through the ranks though in Nazi Germany.
In The Land of the B
- 12 Apr 2011 13:16
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You really are quite obsessive, Greg. Do get some professional help before all this consumes you. No-one, not even you, deserves to end up in a secure mental hospital.
I am not going to indulge you in your wish for a slanging match.
That's just too childish.
Haystack
- 12 Apr 2011 14:39
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I think you are the obssessive one. I am merely posting items about Israel's appaling behaviour. You just want to abuse other posters without contributing anything.
In The Land of the B
- 12 Apr 2011 14:52
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I think you'll have to play alone in your cot, parrot, even if you're waving your tiny fists around, pouting your lower lip and screaming out with anger and frustration because you can't get your own way.
There's no-one here who wants to play your silly little games, sonny.
Haystack
- 12 Apr 2011 23:30
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Hopefully that means you won't be tempted to make silly remarks any more!
Haystack
- 12 Apr 2011 23:30
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Arab member of the Israeli parliament Hanin Zoabi said that Hamas and other Palestinian resistance factions are entitled to fire rockets for the sake of attaining their peoples freedom.
She was quoted by Hebrew daily Maariv as saying on Monday that those living under siege and miserable living conditions do everything in their power for the sake of their freedom and the Israeli occupation authority should understand that.
cynic
- 13 Apr 2011 06:23
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i would refer you back to my post 4804 ..... i actually tried to lead a couple of conversations towards gaza/israel, but still there was no interest, the feeling being (as i have written before) that they regard as just a local pain-in-the-arse squabble, but of no consequence or real interest
In The Land of the B
- 13 Apr 2011 14:21
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Yes, parrot, I see you quickly gloss over the fact that the only place in the middle east Arabs have the democratic vote is ISRAEL !
Says it all LOL
Haystack
- 13 Apr 2011 14:57
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That will be changing very soon. The lack of democracy has hindered the will of the Arab people regarding Israel. The dictatorships in the Arab world have largely been propped up by the US in an attempt to thwart Arab action over Palestine. That era is now coming to an end.
Egyptian is the furthest along this road to democracy and the Egyptian Foreign Minister has already expressed his feelings about the behaviour of Israel. Hopefully this undercurrent of feelings will turn into action across the Arab world as democracy increases. Arabs in Israel don't have access to democracy. They are still discrimintated against within Israel socially and legally. It is only non Arabs that have real democracy in Israel.
cynic
- 13 Apr 2011 15:03
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reminder - must get that lamp rubbed harder!
In The Land of the B
- 13 Apr 2011 15:26
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"Arabs in Israel don't have access to democracy. "
You've just got to twist and distort and lie, haven't you ?
Your credibility even amongst the most credulous is rock bottom.
How else do you think an Arab MP gets elected to the Knesset?
And can you imagine how someone saying that wouldn't be arrested for treason in most other countries ?
Parrot, you deny reality as in this prime example. You think like a nazi and you are one.
Haystack
- 13 Apr 2011 15:53
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And when Arab members get elected they get suspended and have their passports taken if they say things that Netenyahu doesn't like. The Arab MP I mentioned above has had her Parlimentary privilieges removed including her dimplomatic passport because she was on the last freedom flotilla and gave evidence to the UN committee that resulted in charges of crimes against humanity being brough against Israel. She is taking Israeli high court action over the affair. This is the way that Israel attempts to silence people. Even her entitlement to financial aid for legal assistance was remoived to make it difficult for her fight the case.
cynic
- 13 Apr 2011 15:54
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ITLOB - enlighten me; there must surely be some form of registration in israel to permit you to vote, just as there is anywhere - e.g. you can't vote even in uk if you are not registered on the electoral roll - so what are the very basic rules ?
Haystack
- 13 Apr 2011 16:05
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The population figures are 20% Arab in Israel, yet they only have 12 out of 120 seats in parliament. People in Israel vote for parties and not candidates. There are percentage figures for a party to acheive to get a seat. Those % figures ahve been gradually raised.
cynic
- 13 Apr 2011 16:10
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that was not the question ..... actually, given that they only have 20% of the population, then 12% isn't that bad if you accept that many won't be registered and/or under-age and/or can't be bothered to vote
Haystack
- 13 Apr 2011 16:11
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All citizens 18 or over can vote.
Haystack
- 13 Apr 2011 16:13
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"actually, given that they only have 20% of the population, then 12% isn't that bad if you accept that many won't be registered and/or under-age and/or can't be bothered to vote"
That makes no sense as the proportion of the population in other groupings would have the same percentage of under age, non registered and not bothered. Therefore 20% shouls still equate with 20% of the seats.
cynic
- 13 Apr 2011 17:09
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ah, so it's all citizens, rather like if you are a bangla in uk and haven't registered to vote, you can't though you will still be counted in the census (assuming you're not an illegal) ..... doesn't sound very unfair to me
you also assume that "other groupings would have the same percentage of under age, non registered and not bothered", which is assuredly not so even in uk
Haystack
- 14 Apr 2011 03:45
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European Platform for the Academic and Cultural Boycott of Israel
Academic Boycott of Israel and the Complicity of Israeli Academic Institutions in Occupation of Palestinian Territories
http://www.epacbi.eu/articles/academic-boycott-israel-and-complicity-israeli-academic-institutions-occupation-palestinian
U.S. Campaign for the Academic & Cultural Boycott of Israel
http://usacbi.wordpress.com/
cynic
- 14 Apr 2011 07:11
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whoops! didn't like where that last post was leading, so let's go off at a tangent ..... no sruprises then