Fred1new
- 06 Jan 2009 19:21
Will this increase or decrease the likelihood of terrorist actions in America, Europe and the rest of the world?
If you were a member of a family murdered in this conflict, would you be seeking revenge?
Should Tzipi Livni and Ehud Olmert, be tried for war crimes if or when this conflict comes to an end?
What will the price of oil be in 4 weeks time?
Haystack
- 17 Apr 2011 17:53
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It is interesting that the world seems to be criticising Libya for the use of cluster bombs. Cluster bombs are banned by over 100 countries. Israel used cluster bombs against Gaza in 2009.
cynic
- 17 Apr 2011 18:08
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such a shame that the israelis nailed the second major arms supplier to hamas - another murdering bastard extremist off the face of the earth ..... perhaps we should all go into mourning! ..... it's certainly good to see that the israelis haven't lost their touch nor their focus to succeed .... it would be nice to think that was just a dry run before nailing the "real" GM, as clearly us western wussies think it too immoral to do so
In The Land of the B
- 17 Apr 2011 18:10
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Not surprising when Hamas continue to launch rockets and missiles at Israel !
People want the scumbags dealing with. I'm surprised it wasn't 95% wanting an attack.
Deliberately targeting a yellow school bus is yet another murderous provocation by Hamas.
Hey parrot, your hero's birthday is on Wednesday. What are you doing to celebrate?
Haystack
- 17 Apr 2011 18:16
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Hamas fire rockets at Israel as they are occupying their land illegally. It is not suprising that people want to rid thenmselves of an illegal occupying force. The attack on the bus was not Hamas, but another group that disagrees with Hamas. They fired at the bus because it was in a military zone. What about all the residents of Gaza that Israel kills almost evry day.
This was yesterday
Israeli occupation forces (IOF) advanced into eastern Beit Hanun town in northern Gaza Strip on Sunday morning amid random firing, local sources reported.
They said that IOF troops in armored vehicles advanced 100 meters into the area and bulldozed land.
The sources said that the soldiers shot at Palestinian farmers, who were tending their land, and at nearby homes.
Also from yesterday
Israeli navy gunboats opened heavy machinegun fire at Palestinian fishing boats off the coast of Gaza city on Saturday evening, local sources reported.
cynic
- 17 Apr 2011 18:22
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drop cluster bombs on the lot of them .... failing that, a little whiff of phosgene may speed things up
Haystack
- 17 Apr 2011 18:23
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More Israeli war crimes during war with Lebanon
IDF commander: We fired more than a million cluster bombs in Lebanon
Phosphorous and cluster bombs heavily used; unexploded munitions litter wide area of Lebanon.
"What we did was insane and monstrous, we covered entire towns in cluster bombs," the head of an IDF rocket unit in Lebanon said regarding the use of cluster bombs and phosphorous shells during the war.
Quoting his battalion commander, the rocket unit head stated that the IDF fired around 1,800 cluster bombs, containing over 1.2 million cluster bomblets.
In addition, soldiers in IDF artillery units testified that the army used phosphorous shells during the war, widely forbidden by international law. According to their claims, the vast majority of said explosive ordinance was fired in the final 10 days of the war.
The rocket unit commander stated that Multiple Launch Rocket System (MLRS) platforms were heavily used in spite of the fact that they were known to be highly inaccurate.
cynic
- 17 Apr 2011 19:30
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wow! a million of them .... koshoggi must have made a bundle out of that .... shame they didn't save a few for a hamas chrissie present
and hamas "owns" israel; well at least that's an original thought even if without foundation - unless built on sand of course
Haystack
- 17 Apr 2011 19:40
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Most of the cluster bombs came from the US.
Hamas doesn't own Israel. The Palestinians own what is temporarily called Israel.
cynic
- 17 Apr 2011 19:55
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forgive me, but i thought "Hamas fire rockets at Israel as they are occupying their land illegally" meant that it was hamas who reckons israel is hamas's land; if not, who is "their"? .... israel's? .... and if it's israel's, then surely that means they are entitled to be there .... and who says that israel "belongs" to these strangely nomadic palestinians who seemingly emanate form all sorts of strange places ..... finally, who apart from you, says "Most of the cluster bombs came from the US" and even then, what is the relevance?
Fred1new
- 17 Apr 2011 20:02
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Cynic,
Posting 4886
Your comment could be equally applied to the Israeli administration.
Haystack
- 17 Apr 2011 20:09
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It is Hamas's as well as they are Palestinians. I can say England is my land no matter who I am, if I am English. The Palestinians were inhabiting the area temporarily called Israel for the last couple of thousand years.
The relevance of the US over cluster bombs was your comment that koshoggi must have made a bundle out of that. I would think that koshoggi was not involved.
Haystack
- 17 Apr 2011 20:20
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The post 4886 is interesting in that Israel dropped bombs on Sudan the other day. Under exactly which piece of legislation was that possible? Certainly Sudan is not too happy about it. On that basis, it would seem to be fine for Hamas or anyone else to fire rockets at Israel.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-12987245
Sudan accuses Israel over Port Sudan air strike
The Sudanese government says Israel carried out an air strike on a car near the city of Port Sudan on the Red Sea coast which killed its two passengers.
Earlier, police said a missile had probably come from the direction of the Red Sea.
Some sources suggest two helicopters could have been involved. The car, said to be a Hyundai Sonata, was hit about 15km (nine miles) south of Port Sudan on Tuesday.
Haystack
- 17 Apr 2011 20:25
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The inhabitants of the Warsaw Ghetto smuggled weapons into the ghetto in 1943/4 to defend themselves against the Germans outside. Hamas is doing the same thing to act against Israel who are creating the Gaza Ghetto.
Haystack
- 17 Apr 2011 20:31
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http://www.heraldscotland.com/gaza-ghetto-is-destroyed-and-the-world-stays-silent-1.829984#
Gaza ghetto is destroyed and the world stays silent
Tom Shields on Israeli bombings
It is a tried and tested recipe for dealing with a civilian population perceived as the enemy. Make them prisoners in their own houses and streets, behind walls and high wire fences. Have your army and police force guard the gates to prevent free movement of people. Blockade food and other essential supplies.
When the people behind the walls rise up in defiance, crush them with all the military power at your disposal. It worked for Nazi Germany in the Warsaw ghetto during the second world war. It's working for the Israelis today in the Gaza Strip.
It is an appropriate analogy. In their operations to exterminate Hamas in the enclosed spaces of Gaza, the Israeli forces are said to use techniques employed by the Germans in their assault on the Jews in the Warsaw ghetto.
Israel will deny any similarity to Nazi strategy. But the response to the Hamas rocket attacks on Jewish settlements has been totally inappropriate.
In the last couple of years, about 15 Israelis had been killed by Hamas rockets. The death toll in Gaza last week was 430 and rising.
Israel says it is targeting Hamas but some 40 children have been killed by the air strikes. One child was decapitated on Friday while playing in the street in the town of Khan Yunis.
spitfire43
- 17 Apr 2011 22:10
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All thats needed is someone to reconcile the Jews with Palestine people, then we wouldn't have to read such a pointless thread. What about Michael Palin, everyone seems to like him, I'm sure he could bring some common ground to all parties.
In my humble opinion both groups are totally obnoxious, I must admit that I worked at a major UK international Airport for many years, and never once came across a pleasant person from Israil. And just to be even handed, I never came across a Arab fellow that I could trust. What!
Hope this pointless message contributes to this pointless thread.
All imo spitfire 43...........
TANKER
- 18 Apr 2011 08:10
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The 7th Annual Israeli Apartheid Week 2011
Israeli Apartheid Week organizers across the globe are gearing up for the 7th year of actions in support of Palestinian Civil Society's call for Boycotts, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS). Last years IAW was incredibly successful with over 55 cities worldwide joining the week to end Israels apartheid.
Due to the popularity of Israeli Apartheid Week we have extended the "week" to allow campuses, organizations and regions on different schedules to participate:
March 7-20, Global
March 21-26 United Kingdom
what a load of crap you must be a complete pillock or just a arsehole
TANKER
- 18 Apr 2011 08:12
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????
In The Land of the B
- 18 Apr 2011 09:19
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Parrot is trying to provoke so people lose their tempers with him and he wants those of us with brains banned for being rude to him.
He is churning out lies and propaganda like his nazi heroes.
In fact he's beginning to sound like the screaming ranting Hitler.
Not mad, just very bad.
cynic
- 18 Apr 2011 09:45
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hayseed is just a staunch (some might say totally misguided) and bigoted supporter of hamas who, on his own admission, is totally disinterested in contrary opinion or fact
spitfire - i'm saddened to learn that you have never come across a pleasant israeli or a trustworthy arab - a catch-all nomenclature that in itself is pretty insulting .... your mindset would seem to be close to hayseed's
fahel
- 18 Apr 2011 15:53
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