Fred1new
- 06 Jan 2009 19:21
Will this increase or decrease the likelihood of terrorist actions in America, Europe and the rest of the world?
If you were a member of a family murdered in this conflict, would you be seeking revenge?
Should Tzipi Livni and Ehud Olmert, be tried for war crimes if or when this conflict comes to an end?
What will the price of oil be in 4 weeks time?
Haystack
- 17 Apr 2011 19:40
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Most of the cluster bombs came from the US.
Hamas doesn't own Israel. The Palestinians own what is temporarily called Israel.
cynic
- 17 Apr 2011 19:55
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forgive me, but i thought "Hamas fire rockets at Israel as they are occupying their land illegally" meant that it was hamas who reckons israel is hamas's land; if not, who is "their"? .... israel's? .... and if it's israel's, then surely that means they are entitled to be there .... and who says that israel "belongs" to these strangely nomadic palestinians who seemingly emanate form all sorts of strange places ..... finally, who apart from you, says "Most of the cluster bombs came from the US" and even then, what is the relevance?
Fred1new
- 17 Apr 2011 20:02
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Cynic,
Posting 4886
Your comment could be equally applied to the Israeli administration.
Haystack
- 17 Apr 2011 20:09
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It is Hamas's as well as they are Palestinians. I can say England is my land no matter who I am, if I am English. The Palestinians were inhabiting the area temporarily called Israel for the last couple of thousand years.
The relevance of the US over cluster bombs was your comment that koshoggi must have made a bundle out of that. I would think that koshoggi was not involved.
Haystack
- 17 Apr 2011 20:20
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The post 4886 is interesting in that Israel dropped bombs on Sudan the other day. Under exactly which piece of legislation was that possible? Certainly Sudan is not too happy about it. On that basis, it would seem to be fine for Hamas or anyone else to fire rockets at Israel.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-12987245
Sudan accuses Israel over Port Sudan air strike
The Sudanese government says Israel carried out an air strike on a car near the city of Port Sudan on the Red Sea coast which killed its two passengers.
Earlier, police said a missile had probably come from the direction of the Red Sea.
Some sources suggest two helicopters could have been involved. The car, said to be a Hyundai Sonata, was hit about 15km (nine miles) south of Port Sudan on Tuesday.
Haystack
- 17 Apr 2011 20:25
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The inhabitants of the Warsaw Ghetto smuggled weapons into the ghetto in 1943/4 to defend themselves against the Germans outside. Hamas is doing the same thing to act against Israel who are creating the Gaza Ghetto.
Haystack
- 17 Apr 2011 20:31
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http://www.heraldscotland.com/gaza-ghetto-is-destroyed-and-the-world-stays-silent-1.829984#
Gaza ghetto is destroyed and the world stays silent
Tom Shields on Israeli bombings
It is a tried and tested recipe for dealing with a civilian population perceived as the enemy. Make them prisoners in their own houses and streets, behind walls and high wire fences. Have your army and police force guard the gates to prevent free movement of people. Blockade food and other essential supplies.
When the people behind the walls rise up in defiance, crush them with all the military power at your disposal. It worked for Nazi Germany in the Warsaw ghetto during the second world war. It's working for the Israelis today in the Gaza Strip.
It is an appropriate analogy. In their operations to exterminate Hamas in the enclosed spaces of Gaza, the Israeli forces are said to use techniques employed by the Germans in their assault on the Jews in the Warsaw ghetto.
Israel will deny any similarity to Nazi strategy. But the response to the Hamas rocket attacks on Jewish settlements has been totally inappropriate.
In the last couple of years, about 15 Israelis had been killed by Hamas rockets. The death toll in Gaza last week was 430 and rising.
Israel says it is targeting Hamas but some 40 children have been killed by the air strikes. One child was decapitated on Friday while playing in the street in the town of Khan Yunis.
spitfire43
- 17 Apr 2011 22:10
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All thats needed is someone to reconcile the Jews with Palestine people, then we wouldn't have to read such a pointless thread. What about Michael Palin, everyone seems to like him, I'm sure he could bring some common ground to all parties.
In my humble opinion both groups are totally obnoxious, I must admit that I worked at a major UK international Airport for many years, and never once came across a pleasant person from Israil. And just to be even handed, I never came across a Arab fellow that I could trust. What!
Hope this pointless message contributes to this pointless thread.
All imo spitfire 43...........
TANKER
- 18 Apr 2011 08:10
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The 7th Annual Israeli Apartheid Week 2011
Israeli Apartheid Week organizers across the globe are gearing up for the 7th year of actions in support of Palestinian Civil Society's call for Boycotts, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS). Last years IAW was incredibly successful with over 55 cities worldwide joining the week to end Israels apartheid.
Due to the popularity of Israeli Apartheid Week we have extended the "week" to allow campuses, organizations and regions on different schedules to participate:
March 7-20, Global
March 21-26 United Kingdom
what a load of crap you must be a complete pillock or just a arsehole
TANKER
- 18 Apr 2011 08:12
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????
In The Land of the B
- 18 Apr 2011 09:19
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Parrot is trying to provoke so people lose their tempers with him and he wants those of us with brains banned for being rude to him.
He is churning out lies and propaganda like his nazi heroes.
In fact he's beginning to sound like the screaming ranting Hitler.
Not mad, just very bad.
cynic
- 18 Apr 2011 09:45
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hayseed is just a staunch (some might say totally misguided) and bigoted supporter of hamas who, on his own admission, is totally disinterested in contrary opinion or fact
spitfire - i'm saddened to learn that you have never come across a pleasant israeli or a trustworthy arab - a catch-all nomenclature that in itself is pretty insulting .... your mindset would seem to be close to hayseed's
fahel
- 18 Apr 2011 15:53
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In The Land of the B
- 18 Apr 2011 16:34
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zzz....
cynic
- 18 Apr 2011 16:41
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the promise of all those virgins in heaven .... they knew they'ld have to hurry as the virgins were on special offer (merit 3; get 1 free) but only as long as stocks lasted - trust me, they're in extremely short supply worldwide
In The Land of the B
- 18 Apr 2011 16:57
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not surprised they are in short supply
how do the virgins get to heaven anyway?
are they murdered as well as the Jews and kaffirs?
cynic
- 18 Apr 2011 17:06
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kaffirs have other idea for them; the jews fuck all the goyim virgins so i am told, so goodness knows where they are found .... perhaps they have a good (jewish) plastic surgeon to do the reconstruction work on piece work - very popular operation i am told, especially where virginity is prized in the marriage market, either of the permanent or temporary kind
In The Land of the B
- 18 Apr 2011 17:32
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There will not be peace till the Caliphate is established and all kaffirs and Jews (called dogs and monkeys) are cleansed from the earth, though the weak minded like the parrot can help with the last final solution before their own extirmination.
Yes, nazi parrot, complain to the mods - when you spew hatred and lies like you do, people react ! Terrible of them, huh? Ban ITLOB so the parrot and fahel can spew hatred unhindered by the truth. Typical intolerance. Typical nazi.
Heil Hamas
Heil Hezbollah
Heil Hitler
Heil Hayes !
Haystack
- 18 Apr 2011 17:43
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This is a coalition partner in the Israeli government!
Major rabbi says non-Jews are donkeys, created to serve Jews
A major Jewish religious figure in Israel has likened non-Jews to donkeys and beasts of burden, saying the main reason for their very existence is to serve Jews.
Rabbi Ovadia Yosef, spiritual mentor of the religious fundamentalist party, Shas, which represents Middle Eastern Jews, reportedly said during a Sabbath homily earlier this week that "the sole purpose of non-Jews is to serve Jews." Yosef is considered a major religious leader in Israel who enjoys the allegiance of hundreds of thousands of followers.
Shas is a chief coalition partner in the current Israeli government,
Yosef, also a former Chief Rabbi of Israel, was quoted by the right-wing newspaper, the Jerusalem Post, as saying that the basic function of a goy, a derogatory word for a gentile, was to serve Jews.
"Non-Jews were born only to serve us. Without that, they have no place in the world-only to serve the People of Israel," Yosef said in his weekly Saturday night sermon which was devoted to laws regarding actions non-Jews are permitted to perform on the Sabbath.
Yosef also reportedly said that the lives of non-Jews in Israel are preserved by God in order to prevent losses to Jews.
Yosef, widely considered a prominent Torah sage and authority on the interpretation of Talmud, a basic Jewish scripture, held a comparison between animals of burden and non-Jews.
"In Israel, death has no dominion over themWith gentiles, it will be like any person-They need to die, but God will give them longevity. Why? Imagine that one's donkey would die, they'd lose their money.
"This is his servantThat's why he gets a long life, to work well for this Jew."
Yosef further elucidated his ideas about the servitude of gentiles to Jews, asking "why are gentiles needed? They will work, they will plow, they will reap; and we will sit like an effendi and eat."
"That is why gentiles were created."
The concept of gentiles being infra-human beings or quasi-animals is well-established in Orthodox Judaism.
For example, rabbis affiliated with the Chabad movement, a supremacist but influential Jewish sect, teach openly that at the spiritual level, non-Jews have the status of animals.
In The Land of the B
- 18 Apr 2011 22:15
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And do you think the UK doesn't have its nutty extremists, or France or Russia or the US, or extremist Hindus or Muslims or any other religion or country or ethnic group and YES even Jews have nutty extremists like everybody else.
Come to think of it, we have our very own extreme nutter here on moneyam....yes, folks it's our resident Nazi, Greg Hayes aka haystacker aka the parrot.
Notice how the parrot tries to suggest all Israelis, all Jews are mad nutters by association - that attitude is why Greg Hayes is a nasty nazi; it's a typical nazi ploy.
You really are one sick piece of work, parrot.