bosley
- 20 Feb 2004 09:34
bhunt1910
- 26 May 2005 14:42
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Is this new? - I did not nkow that Frogpack was "live" in the UK already
"FrogPack utilizes a unique technology called shock-absorbing arcuate panel technology (SAAP) for its added strength and protective qualifies. The technology, designed by Aquasol, a subsidiary of Stanelco, is already in use in the United Kingdom by a packager of lighting supplies and a packager of electronic components".
Baza
Sequestor
- 26 May 2005 14:45
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Good old EK, a man after my own heart, no messing with emotion there.
treikiman
- 26 May 2005 14:49
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thanks driver......i am still learning:))
Sequestor
- 26 May 2005 15:16
- 4929 of 27111
getting a bit boring this, closed my FTSE short, looks like the DOW may well drag it up over 5000, lets hope it moves this on the sentiment that would engender
016622
- 26 May 2005 15:57
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Sequestor - 26 May'05 - 09:05 - 4903 of 4928
Unexpected turn round in the markets today, FTSE well up, stopped my short out @4990, it`ll fall back again soooon!!
g`luck
bhunt1910
- 26 May 2005 16:14
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Driver - not sure I understand the question - what is R/Page?
Sorry
Baza
Sequestor
- 26 May 2005 16:14
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er yes 016622, you wanted to say what?
Go on make my day, I hate slicks.
bhunt1910
- 26 May 2005 16:31
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Well - a nice steady eddie day - thats what I like to see
Baza
driver
- 26 May 2005 16:37
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1910
Re R/Page and 'I did not know that Frogpack was "live" in the UK already"
More importantly than that, is the huge potential market for Frogpack its could be at least as big or bigger than Greenseal see article 5 of the R/Page.
Research Page.
http://www.moneyam.com/InvestorsRoom/ShowPostList?fID=1&tID=5042
Chiva20
- 26 May 2005 16:42
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I think we can read a lot into the activity today. I was concerned about dropping to a 20-23p trading range, but there still appears to be plenty of investors prepared to push the sp up. Ek taking a hike helps of course. Personally I feel comfortable that we're looking at a 24-25p support level. resistance? Who knows.
paulmasterson1
- 26 May 2005 17:04
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Hi All,
SEO have put some interesting datasheets on FrogPack and Cradlewrap on the http://www.stanelco.co.uk website.
I could not find the links to them on the website, but found the files in a google search !!!!
http://www.stanelco.co.uk/about%20files/FrogPack%20Datasheet.pdf
http://www.stanelco.co.uk/producttest%20files/Cradlewrap%20Data%20Sheet%20V22.pdf
Cheers,
PM
bhunt1910
- 26 May 2005 17:09
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Driver - thanks for that - I have now included the r/page in my "favourites" - and without realising that it was your work - I had already sent a copy of it on to some friends who wanted a succint and reasoned analysis of the company.
Clearly I missed the reference to Frogpak & Uk - but I do agree with you - that longer term Frogpak could be bigger that the tray lidding operation - given time and expert marketing.
Cheers
baza
bhunt1910
- 26 May 2005 18:32
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I checked for the copyright sign - but as it was all public domain stuff - I thought it was ok - but I will happily contribute a fiver to the drinking fund in Doncaster
Baza
paulmasterson1
- 26 May 2005 18:42
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Driver Hi,
I doubt FrogPack will be as big as Greenseal, my reasoning is that the entire USA market for protective mailers is said to be worth $1Bn in 2006. So, if Stanelco received royalties of 10% (3p of a 30p mailer for example), if they managed to get 100% of the USA market, they would be looking at $100m in total revenue.
It would be mad to suggest that Frogpack could take 100% of the market.
As far as Greenseal is concerned, the total USA market will likely end up at 100,000 machines, when all the different types are converted (MAP, Non-MAP, Pot Fill and Seal, Bags, Thermoform, Ready Meals, etc), so the market for Greenseal is worth 100,000 times $55,000, which is $5,500,000,000 !!!!
Put another way, Stanelco only need to convert 1819 machines to hit $100m, the total market value to them of Frogpack in the USA. It is very likely this target will be beaten within 6-12 months(a conservative estimate !)
I prefer to see FrogPack as covering all costs for Stanelco, thereby making Greenseal revenue 100% PROFIT :)
Anything Greenseal can add, after the company running costs are taken out, will be a bonus :)
Cheers,
PM
ptholden
- 26 May 2005 19:04
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I'm not too sure what is worse, the rubbish posted by IIdiot deramping SEO or the last post by Paul Masterson suggesting that the US market for Greenseal 'will likely end up at 100,00 machines.' At the moment, SEO have a contract for ONE confirmed machine in the UK. There is the rumour that Walmart will follow ASDA but not substantiated, nevermind a contract and now we have a leap to 100,000 machines. There is absolutely no evidence to suggest whatsoever that Greenseal technology WILL be used by this number of machines. Fair enough to say that the possible market may be this size but to state categorically that this is where SEO will end up is the worst kind of ramping and does PM no credit at all.
I like many have a vested interest in the success of SEO, but have a sensible view of what will be achieved, rather than flights of fancy.
What a load of rubbish.
PTH
Sequestor
- 26 May 2005 19:17
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ptholden,
I see that the ADVFN import from "Rampers are US" has been received with accolades,-----------
"As far as Greenseal is concerned, the total USA market will likely end up at 100,000 machines, when all the different types are converted (MAP, Non-MAP, Pot Fill and Seal, Bags, Thermoform, Ready Meals, etc), so the market for Greenseal is worth 100,000 times $55,000, which is $5,500,000,000 !!!!
---------
I would echo your scoff,but with a more appropriate- "utter bollox"-oh and a further ROFLMFAO!!!!!!
Where do these clowns come from, even more worrying, what sort of moron applauds them?
paulmasterson1
- 26 May 2005 19:19
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ptholden/Sequestor Hi,
Where do I "state categorically that this is where SEO will end up" ????
Don't try and twist my words in order to try and ridicule me !!!!
You said "Fair enough to say that the possible market may be this size"
I said the 'market will likely end up at 100,000 machines"
Nowhere do I say what percentage Stanelco will get of it !
Your welcome to edit those posts, and your welcome to suggest a re-wording of my post so that we are all happy :)
Cheers,
PM
Poverty
- 26 May 2005 19:21
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F*@K EK - He can eat my shorts - he is also a liar - he lost money on a recent SEO short 'cos they headed north really sudden and fast - caught him with his shorts down - but so what - he hasn't got enough money to risk shorting SEO seriously and affecting the price.
"Higher highs and higher lows" - whomever said that on this board is correct!