Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

''Also, don't see why the poorest in society should have to pay for the sometimes stupidity of the "said" leaders and those who "know" better.''

Strange then that given your above statement you were an advocate of remaining in the EU.
2517

4925, Just for balance you understand...

Credit Ratings agency Moody's forecast the UK will easily escape recession!!

Dumbo,

You are living up to your name.

Read my past posts on Blair.


You appear dafter than he was in some of his actions.

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2517.

I still think it a folly to have voted for Brexit. As do many others who thought it sensible to remain in the EU and modify the "regulations" and perhaps goals.

But the proof is said to be in the eating.

At the moment the grand surge by some of the Brexiters was for OUT.

Where they were advocate going and what they are going to get if they got there?

No Planning. Leaders of rabble and leaving the scene as soon as possible after the act.

My guess is nothing great substance will be obtained and probably little will be of advantage to the whole of the UK. At that if any will be at a cost.

Nothing is for nothing. The ability to and age of pirating and pillaging other countries are fading.

Devaluation, which some are celebrating, is a pin-prick to the economy, a form of "austerity", which inevitably effects the poorest and fades as a stimulant after a few months.

Mind, one can invite the Russians and Chinese and other countries to buy the "country's silver" at knock down prices. Invite a few more.

Ask them to donate to the coffers of the Cons party and involve them in decision making.

Perhaps giving them holiday homes in Monaco, Panama, or the Cayman Isles.

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I see there are jobs going in the latter..

I think now that some of those who voted remain will be seeing that leaving
is not going to bring war and destruction to the western world, and that the
UK's economy would go belly up, in fact the opposite.

Thicko ...
I still think it a folly to have voted for Brexit. As do many others who thought it sensible to remain in the EU and modify the "regulations" and perhaps goals.

You must know that was never going to happen , surely you not that thick are you ?

The "rules, laws and regulations" of the EEC, EU etc. have been in constant, (even if slow) modification for the last 40 years.

As have the "rules, laws and regulations" of the UK for the last 300 years.

It is what you would expect of a dynamic ongoing developing body.

Times change, attitudes change and rules change in response.

Mistakes are made and the majority are recovered from.

But revolution generally causes more pain than necessary, evolution is preferable.


But the rabble wants blood and thunder.

Usually, other people's blood.

Yup you really are that thick ....

The "rules, laws and regulations" of the EEC, EU etc. have been in constant, (even if slow) modification for the last 40 years.

Not in our favour , an anti democratic and very very corrupt union who are unelected and wanted more and more power over us .

And also ruining us don't forget .

You want your sweets, but you won't share some of yours with anybody else.

You want to change the rules and you are going to stamp your feet until you get your own way.

You are special and want to be treated as such.

Hopes.

Restart the medication.
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I bet his friend Stan voted out , Fred doesn't seem to be having any support from him.

UK General Election Seat Forecast

CON: 411 (+80)
LAB: 153 (-79)
SNP: 54 (-2)
PC: 6 (+3)
LD: 5 (-3)
GRN: 2 (+1)
UKIP: 0 (-1)
NI: 18 (-)

4924 - it may be termed "my personal balance" but as you admitted once (yes, just once) many moons ago, you have no interest in presenting a balanced view ......

with that you are indeed consistent, and dull and boorish and monotonous, and it is for for that (alone) that i am very glad indeed that i waste little of my time on here nowadays

Your right Fred (for once) we are special ,we are Great Britain and we don't need to share our sweets with most of Eastern Europe and a corrupt Union in Brussels who want to take take and drag us down ...Hope that helps.

Manuel,

So am I.

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Dumbo..

Keep sucking them!

For someone who is a little long in the tooth, as you are Fred, you don't seem to learnt anything from experience.

Defending your way of life is not something terrible, it is a natural reaction to any incursion.

For an old socialista, you have a weird way of looking out for your offspring..cos they are the ones who will feel the pinch of globalism.

It's also a little strange to see a died in the wool socialista defending market free for all'...except it's not free, nothing is free...there is a cost, and your grandkids will pay.

Just remember Freda is pre - programmed to act this way it is too embedded in him to be any different .

Max.

I may be long in the tooth, but I have learnt from history.

Also, I can see the benefits of cooperation as well as competition.

Freds a first generation immigrant, and like a lot of first/second generation
immigrants they hate anything English and wish to exact revenge on what
they see as past English imperialism on their motherlands.

They would be jubilant to see the past imperialist subdued by another political
ideology.

Granny.

No.

But I do have a dislike of some little englanders hankering for their mythical pasts.

Brexit doesn't seem to have done our Olympic team any harm and the medal table looks like a league table of who will do best from us leaving.