Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

In response to post 49323, I find it strange that we have a National Health Service where residents in Wales, Scotland and I believe also in N. Ireland have free prescriptions, but not in England.
2517

in other words fred, you won't answer at all as is your wont!
from you, we'll just the usual load of flannel which will make a pretence at answering but of course will do nothing of the sort

no wonder you find it impossible to vote! :-)

Maybe London and the South East should devolve from the rest of the UK??

London generates 22% of UK GDP, whereas the south east as a whole only has 13.5% of the UK's population. The distribution is clearly unfairly weighted in favour of the northern scroungers and hangers-on.

2517George - I did find it a shock to the system when I had to move my mother from Scotland to live in England with me and I had to pay for her hearing aid batteries which were available free of charge in Scotland.

Also I had Power of Attorney under Scottish Law and I was told it wasn't legal under English Law, so I had to have a completely new Power of Attorney drawn up which was acceptable under English Law.

Cyners,

I've noticed you keep going on at OBC for not voting, but it is his democratic right NOT TO VOTE.

When you vote at whatever level, the idea is that you vote for the person (or party) who will best represent your needs or wishes at that particular level. If you feel that none of the electoral candidates are capable of representing your wishes, then it's your prerogative not to vote.

And if somebody chooses not to vote, it doesn't remove their right to complain.

the last was merely a dig about never being able to give a straight answer :-)

I'm leaving before I get on my soapbox about that hilary!-)

Put your deaf aid in first, doods!

:o)

Not certain.

I think it may be sensible for the rules to be different for immigrants from within or without the EU.
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I think the reciprocation costing and access to welfare within the EU have to be standardised and equivalent.

If that is so, I see no reason to why there should not be “free” movement of subjects in Europe.

Bearing in mind this does not “allow” individuals to flee from “local” criminal, or legal actions to disappear.

My feelings are there should be a closer relationship and examinations between the Tax raising authorities within the EU of those moving backwards and forwards across borders, especially those with large suitcases.

From outside the EU.

More problematic, but again I think it depends upon the reasons for the migration and the support facilities which are on offer.

If the intention is to be dependent rather than independent with a reasonable standard of living then I may draw a line.

Because they can’t pay the bills to-day doesn’t mean they can pay the bill to-morrow and give you a tip.

However, I see a comparison with individuals who live in the Cayman Isles but like occasionally pop back to the UK for a day racing and pick up a pay packet.

It is bloody complex.

I wonder how many tombs of rules on immigration there are already.

Manuel,

Answer my question.

Are you dying or not?

Fred of course manuel is dying, hes been dying like everyone since the day they were born.

49316

Now Fred your post 49316, I said id get back to you.

No in both cases we help them to get better but we make sure they pay for the treatment with an additional add onto there NI contributions on a monthly basis over a length time of years.

49338 - simple answer to simple question .... YES! :-)

costing and access to welfare within the EU have to be standardised and equivalent.
where you have entities with such disparate economies and even philosophies that certainly cannot be so
even in usa taxes one kind or another vary quite considerably


closer relationship and examinations between the Tax raising authorities within the EU
not wrong in principal, as with interpol
however, it is patently obvious that some countries aren't very good at collecting their taxes anyway
as the greeks (and italians) say, "we don't pay tax, we just pay the taxman"


Because they can’t pay the bills to-day doesn’t mean they can pay the bill to-morrow
though that might be true, it doesn't mean that they have to be allowed entree while they find out and "we" pay for the privilege of their experiment
would you also allow in their (extended) families, who would most likely NOT be making any fianancial contribution at all?

to play devil's advocate ......
if the (extended) family was allowed in, there would be little incentive for the wage- earner (i hope there would be one!) to repatriate a slab of his earnings back home, thus depriving "our" economy of the benefit of same

If I went abroad and didnt have some insurance for a medical problem or accident, Id expect to pay for it, in fact did on a football tour of Belgium many years ago (well not that long ago Hillary).

I downed a bottle of extra strong Smirnoff on the Ferry and in the hotel and was in bed all week.

Never been as poorly in my life.

What some (gay?) guys will do for a sexual fantasy.....



PS. Hope you've had your lunch before watching this one.
PPS. In case you are wondering...., yes, he put it in/up there himself. Then he left it far too long before seeking medical help and in the meantime it had travelled even further up into his body than he originally thought or hoped it would have done. The lungworm (fish) can last for quite a long time without air and needed euthanising upon removal. ie. When it was eventually taken out by the medical team, it was still alive.
PPPS. Do you blame some of the team for taking a video of this? Not much thought for the sterilisation of the mobile phone, was there?

GF

Correct. So am I. (Slowly as I have always been lazy.)

Again, even if their earnings were allowing them to pay their way.

The problem is the cost of their personal tax, may be more than the tax collected.

The system is to complicated, but try simplifying it.



UMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

gf why should the uk tax payers give immigrants to set up home when the youngsters of our country are struggling to get a home . you are wrong we should give no immigrant benefits to move here look after our own . if immigrants want to come here because they have a job then it is quite simple the company they are going to work for should pay the cost not my taxes
now tell me I am wrong

if our people go to live in the eu they get no help no benefits no free doctor nothing
and I do travel a lot .

tax system should first 15k tax free next 55k 20p then 40p and no higher

i certainly see no reason why (new) immigrants should queue-jump the housing ladder - rung-jump perhaps! - when, as you say, those who were brought up here (or similar) have little to no chance of getting council housing or whatever you want to call it