Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

costing and access to welfare within the EU have to be standardised and equivalent.
where you have entities with such disparate economies and even philosophies that certainly cannot be so
even in usa taxes one kind or another vary quite considerably


closer relationship and examinations between the Tax raising authorities within the EU
not wrong in principal, as with interpol
however, it is patently obvious that some countries aren't very good at collecting their taxes anyway
as the greeks (and italians) say, "we don't pay tax, we just pay the taxman"


Because they can’t pay the bills to-day doesn’t mean they can pay the bill to-morrow
though that might be true, it doesn't mean that they have to be allowed entree while they find out and "we" pay for the privilege of their experiment
would you also allow in their (extended) families, who would most likely NOT be making any fianancial contribution at all?

to play devil's advocate ......
if the (extended) family was allowed in, there would be little incentive for the wage- earner (i hope there would be one!) to repatriate a slab of his earnings back home, thus depriving "our" economy of the benefit of same

If I went abroad and didnt have some insurance for a medical problem or accident, Id expect to pay for it, in fact did on a football tour of Belgium many years ago (well not that long ago Hillary).

I downed a bottle of extra strong Smirnoff on the Ferry and in the hotel and was in bed all week.

Never been as poorly in my life.

What some (gay?) guys will do for a sexual fantasy.....



PS. Hope you've had your lunch before watching this one.
PPS. In case you are wondering...., yes, he put it in/up there himself. Then he left it far too long before seeking medical help and in the meantime it had travelled even further up into his body than he originally thought or hoped it would have done. The lungworm (fish) can last for quite a long time without air and needed euthanising upon removal. ie. When it was eventually taken out by the medical team, it was still alive.
PPPS. Do you blame some of the team for taking a video of this? Not much thought for the sterilisation of the mobile phone, was there?

GF

Correct. So am I. (Slowly as I have always been lazy.)

Again, even if their earnings were allowing them to pay their way.

The problem is the cost of their personal tax, may be more than the tax collected.

The system is to complicated, but try simplifying it.



UMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

gf why should the uk tax payers give immigrants to set up home when the youngsters of our country are struggling to get a home . you are wrong we should give no immigrant benefits to move here look after our own . if immigrants want to come here because they have a job then it is quite simple the company they are going to work for should pay the cost not my taxes
now tell me I am wrong

if our people go to live in the eu they get no help no benefits no free doctor nothing
and I do travel a lot .

tax system should first 15k tax free next 55k 20p then 40p and no higher

i certainly see no reason why (new) immigrants should queue-jump the housing ladder - rung-jump perhaps! - when, as you say, those who were brought up here (or similar) have little to no chance of getting council housing or whatever you want to call it

We all know the problems.


So why are the politicians not addressing them, instead of tip-toeing around the shitpile?

Because the don't want to create a bigger one.

And you shouldn't describe yourself like that.

8-)

thank you cynic

MrT - why on earth would you thank me? ..... i'm just stating what i genuinely believe and what seems blindingly obvious

cynic well our gov do not find it so

ah well, this gov't like any other gets itself pulled around by all sorts of other factors and factions ..... they're often irresistible like the effects of the butterfly

Generally, immigrants do not queue jump housing and other key benefits. The ones who get the housing etc are the asylum seekers. If an asylum seeker is accepted as genuine they are treated on a par with UK residents. The problems arise due to the fact that most of them arrive with often large families. They then get better treatment than people here due to their need being greater than single people, couples and small families. It would be the same if there was a large UK family that was homeless. In the end, you have to decide if you want to offer asylum to people in need. The system is abused to a large extent and perhaps that is where effort should be spent.

asylum seeker or immigrant, i perceive no great difference, and sure as hell "your" asylum seekers get precedence over "our own" as you effectively admit

to seek asylum should you not seek asylum at the first country you enter by passing throw that country should mean you are not an asylum seeker they want to reach the uk at all cost . they are not asylum seekers just after jumping the long queue it is just a scam in 98% of cases

Haze,

Hear you help is needed in that tory bastion Rochester.

Just in case you missed this

Labour ahead in more Conservative seats – but not by much
Wednesday, 5 November, 2014 in Marginal seats

By Lord Ashcroft

In my previous round of battleground polling, published last month, I looked at eleven constituencies where the Conservatives have majorities of up to 4.8% over Labour. I found that nine of them would change hands on the basis of my snapshots, with swings to Labour ranging from 2% to 8%, averaging 5% in the seats as a whole."

I think the effective difference is that immigrants often turn up by themselves and bring more family later. Asylum seekers often turn up with the whole families. Certainly a lot of asylum seekers are fraudulent. You have to be here to claim asylum. Some turn up on tourist flights and then claim asylum on landing. We don't send them back until we have investigated their claims which due to backlogs can take a very long time; years in some cases.

that is why we are going to vote ukip we are sick of the bloody lies and more lies
round up all illegals and those that hide them and deport them,
in force the law to any person hiding a illegal to be deported

Voting for UKIP won't change anything. Only a government can change the things you dislike. UKIP are a protest party but won't have any power. If you want these things changed then vote for a strong government. A Conservative clear majority would make it possible to make the changes. Other combinations will not.

The other combinations are

Labour majority - no change
Various coalitions - no change